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Old 12-01-2016, 02:53 PM   #1
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Question Safe to downshift from 6th to 2nd?

Hey guys, newbie here in a few different ways.

First, I'm new to the forum, glad to be part of fellow Camaro enthusiasts.

Second, never owned a performance car in my life.

Third, my 2016 2SS is my first 6 speed that I have ever owned. Always had automatics before this (6 and 4 cylinder.)

I learned how to drive stick on a friend's Honda for a few weeks and then ordered "the beast." And yes, that was one hell of a learning curve for me. Having a car with enough power to carry you up a hill, in first gear, under it's own idling and no extra throttle input, is amazing (at least to me.)

Anyway, getting to my question. My commutes tend to be all open road, 55mph highways. So I'll cruise around 60-65 in 6th. If I get stuck behind someone going anything 45 or less, however, I will do my best to pass them when safe (and legal of course.) To do so I will usually down shift to second and floor it, because I know second gear will top out at about 80mph and produces the most torque (after first of course). The faster I can pass another vehicle, the better. I always keep Active Rev Matching on for perfect downshifts as well. That being said, is this fairly safe to do on occasion? And would I even benefit from double-clutching at all? Gears have never grind and the downshift is super smooth, you just feel the sudden major increase in torque and it takes slightly more effort to shift into the gear than usual.

Thank you so much,

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Old 12-01-2016, 03:00 PM   #2
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In short, yes as long as you dont redline when downshifting (it probably will unless youre going really slow). Try skipping 1 or 2 gears to get the feel and learn the powerband.

Double clutch? Save that for a year or so from now- this is for fun these days, not necessary on newer cars and synchros.
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Old 12-01-2016, 03:19 PM   #3
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You are find going from 6th to second as long as you are not over-revving the engine. I would guess that anything under 60MPH is fine. The rev matching ensures that you are not going to unsettle the backend and performs the same function as doing a double clutch and revving the engine while in neutral.
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Old 12-01-2016, 03:22 PM   #4
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Shifting down to second gear at 45 mph or less and floor it is fine.

Make sure rev-matching is on and the car will make the shift really smooth.
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Old 12-01-2016, 03:29 PM   #5
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I found that the sweetspot is about 45 to 50 mph to shift into second for power it brings you right to 4500 ish rpm wich is ideal for where the car makes its torque, I do this very often, a lot of fun just keep traction control on.
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Old 12-01-2016, 03:30 PM   #6
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That's what I figured, thanks! I love to practice rev-matching myself sometimes but it's awesome having a computer do it perfect every time when needed for seamless shifting. Yeah it hits a little over 4k rpm at 45-50 mph in second I believe. I noticed the car seems to automatically lockout gears that would be much too low to downshift into if you are going fast anyway to prevent over reving.
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Old 12-01-2016, 04:26 PM   #7
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Well I can tell you the a6 silverado will downshift to 2nd when you stomp it at 70 mph I complained about it and the tech said indeed they tested it I am right and it's ok
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Old 12-01-2016, 04:40 PM   #8
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Bear in mind, while there are several limiters in place to try and keep a over rev situation from happening, it is possible to over-rev the engine and go past the limiters and cause mechanical damage.

As long as you are with in the speed limit for that gear and rpm you will be fine.
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