[ender2664]

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

Answers in order.

That is a decision you will have to make for your self.
Yes
Yes
We have not seen any gains by deleting an NPP

Did the k&n intake show any gains?
Did the vmax show any gains?

The main reason I'm getting an intake is for the sound so I'm not to worried about gain, but if I'm going to do an intake I might as well get the best available. But I'd really hate to lose power :/

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by ender2664

Did the k&n intake show any gains?
Did the vmax show any gains?

The main reason I'm getting an intake is for the sound so I'm not to worried about gain, but if I'm going to do an intake I might as well get the best available. But I'd really hate to lose power :/

Out of respect I will not throw anyone under the bus.

We recommend and endorse parts that work and how they work.

If we see a loss you won't hear from us about that product.

The Vmax does what it is intended to do improve throttle response.

Many parts are yet to be tested and you will continue to see testing results come from JRE.

Ted.

[BadBowtieProductions]

I read the whole thread over just to be sure when asking, but I still could've missed it.

If I am reading this correctly, all of these tests were done by just throwing the parts on and seeing the raw gains, correct?
More to the point, NO TUNING was done after each mod, correct?

[PRAY]

Originally Posted by BadBowtieProductions

I read the whole thread over just to be sure when asking, but I still could've missed it.

If I am reading this correctly, all of these tests were done by just throwing the parts on and seeing the raw gains, correct?
More to the point, NO TUNING was done after each mod, correct?

Tuning was done for each mod as far as I am tracking.

[ender2664]

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

Out of respect I will not throw anyone under the bus.

We recommend and endorse parts that work and how they work.

If we see a loss you won't hear from us about that product.

The Vmax does what it is intended to do improve throttle response.

Many parts are yet to be tested and you will continue to see testing results come from JRE.

Ted.

So...if it for sale on your site it makes power and if it isn't than it doesn't or you have not tested it?

[PRAY]

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

We always use Corrected data this takes the changing conditions out of the picture.

STP is Standard Temp and Pressure which is 60 Degrees dry air, 29.92 Baro.

It doesn't matter what Correction factor you use it matters that you always use the same one.

Novice dyno operators will get caught up in saying This power with this factor and that power with that factor and all it does is impose confusion.

If we are below a standard day, 60 degrees with dry air and above 29.92 baro we will see a the dyno correction Negative.

If we are above the standard day hot as hell high humidity low baro we will see the correction factor Positive.

The biggest problem I see is with Calibration and the quality of the sensors collecting the data that forms the correction factor.

Superflow uses Laboratory Grade Sensors in all of the data collection.

I purchased my Superflow in 2001 and it cost 64K because of the quality of both the hardware and the software.

Superflow is the industry standard that all dynos aspire to be.

Many Many Dynojet, Mustang, land and sea, dyno pack and other operators purchase Superflow software and hardware to upgrade and to more accurately run they're dynos.

Thank you for the kind words I hope this helps.

Great info, thanks. I will be trying to buy a dyno in the next few years. I will look into Superflow.

[Roto-fab 1]

Originally Posted by PRAY

Tuning was done for each mod as far as I am tracking.

Each mod was tuned in this test, but it is my understanding that the Roto-fab CAI gains were the same with no tune. Please correct me if i'm wrong, Ted.

Thanks,
Michael

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by BadBowtieProductions

I read the whole thread over just to be sure when asking, but I still could've missed it.

If I am reading this correctly, all of these tests were done by just throwing the parts on and seeing the raw gains, correct?
More to the point, NO TUNING was done after each mod, correct?

Tuned, for each mod.

Ted.

[toohighpsi]

Originally Posted by PRAY

Now that's awesome information right there. I was going to try to flow them both as well but my bench wouldn't do it. Is there anyway you could hook up the stock box and filter and flow that. I think that would show us the true potential of the RF system.

No problem, complete stock is 682CFM @ 7.76 "H20. Granted the entire air box was tested here and with the Rotofab I only looked at the difference between oiled and dry (without the new airbox).

I'll be running the dry Rotofab with the Maggie at the track in early December, more feedback then!

[ender2664]

Originally Posted by toohighpsi

No problem, complete stock is 682CFM @ 7.76 "H20. Granted the entire air box was tested here and with the Rotofab I only looked at the difference between oiled and dry (without the new airbox).

I'll be running the dry Rotofab with the Maggie at the track in early December, more feedback then!

Did you test the Roto-fab flow with the box at all?

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by Roto-fab 1

Each mod was tuned in this test, but it is my understanding that the Roto-fab CAI gains were the same with no tune. Please correct me if i'm wrong, Ted.

Thanks,
Michael

Correct the rotofab had little to no affect on AFR so It could be run without a tune and the gains will be the same.

Ted.

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by toohighpsi

No problem, complete stock is 682CFM @ 7.76 "H20. Granted the entire air box was tested here and with the Rotofab I only looked at the difference between oiled and dry (without the new airbox).

I'll be running the dry Rotofab with the Maggie at the track in early December, more feedback then!

This is good information, but not necessarily relevant to the way the engine pulses play on air flow.

The stock air box cancels harmonic resonance improving air flow.

It also acts like a pump, this might to too much information LOL.

Ted.

[PRAY]

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

This is good information, but not necessarily relevant to the way the engine pulses play on air flow.

The stock air box cancels harmonic resonance improving air flow.

It also acts like a pump, this might to too much information LOL.

Ted.

For overall potential I think it is good info. But the stock air box and bellow have some more advantages that I feel are making up some of the difference. The stock bellow has a taper to it creating velocity and it has 2 60* bends vs. one 120* bend. Maybe I am talking crazy.

[Fraxum]

Interesting discussion.

The whole stock setup according to many including Ted is well done power wise. Which is why I wanted the MSD to be part of the bolton mix. Now with that added I think we see similar gains as we did with a CAI, LTs, and a tune on the 5th gen LS3s. That E85 is a possibility, it looks like we can get close to 500 whp by adding that to the mix. Pretty stout I would say for a bolton stock engine.

As to the aftermarket CAI, regardless of any substantial power gain, it looks cool, gets rid of the awful sound tube, and adds a nicer intake sound that does not need to be pumped into the cabin. People spend more for a splitter.

The problem with all of the above for most SS owners, is how expensive all these parts are.