2017 RAPTOR

DRKS1D3 · 09-29-2016, 01:33 PM

I can't bring myself to buy anything besides GM, but Ford has been making some fun toys as of late (Raptor, Focus ST, Focus RS, etc.)

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...mage=100557841

Expunge · 09-29-2016, 02:01 PM

I moderately liked the first gen Raptor, though it has its own issues.

But this 2nd gen.. F' the aluminum can that is the F150.

Aluminum does not hold up and is expensive to repair, and insurance companies know it.. which is why you have substantially higher rates for the F-150's
The twin turbo V6 is too little motor for that size of vehicle. Good luck with longevity.

F stands for Fail.

Scrappy Doo · 09-29-2016, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Expunge

I moderately liked the first gen Raptor, though it has its own issues.

But this 2nd gen.. F' the aluminum can that is the F150.

Aluminum does not hold up and is expensive to repair, and insurance companies know it.. which is why you have substantially higher rates for the F-150's
The twin turbo V6 is too little motor for that size of vehicle. Good luck with longevity.

F stands for Fail.

See what you say when GM changes to aluminum bodies.....

Mine will be here next month hopefully and I can't wait.

Expunge · 09-29-2016, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrappy Doo

See what you say when GM changes to aluminum bodies.....

Mine will be here next month hopefully and I can't wait.

After they made commercials showing how weak the aluminum is on the F150... Kinda doubt that.

snizzle · 09-29-2016, 02:54 PM

They'll move to aluminum in part, but I bet they shy away from the bed of the truck. They'll just be more aluminum panels in the next-gen truck. The Super Duty had to use thicker gauge aluminum.

shaffe · 09-30-2016, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Expunge

After they made commercials showing how weak the aluminum is on the F150... Kinda doubt that.

I believe GM already has contracts in place with Alcoa to supply them with aluminum for their pick ups.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...a-and-novelis/

72MachOne99GT · 09-30-2016, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shaffe

I believe GM already has contracts in place with Alcoa to supply them with aluminum for their pick ups.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...a-and-novelis/

Thank you.

The trailer industry has been in aluminum for years. Good thing they don't get beat up on.

I own a '15 F-150, insurance costs me no more than my in-laws and their '16 Silverado.

snizzle · 09-30-2016, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 72MachOne99GT

Thank you.

The trailer industry has been in aluminum for years. Good thing they don't get beat up on.

I own a '15 F-150, insurance costs me no more than my in-laws and their '16 Silverado.

For now.....

Your insurance premiums will likely change once repair data comes in bulk and is analyzed. Claims come in. Repairs cost more than steel counterparts. Rates go up. Not to mention comparing your rates to another driver isn't necessarily apples to apples.

shaffe · 09-30-2016, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by snizzle

For now.....

Your insurance premiums will likely change once repair data comes in bulk and is analyzed. Claims come in. Repairs cost more than steel counterparts. Rates go up. Not to mention comparing your rates to another driver isn't necessarily apples to apples.

FWIW a good chunk of people on the F150forum actually had their rates go down with the aluminum body F-150, others stayed the same and a few went up. I think the thought that rates would go way up was overblown

trashmanssd · 09-30-2016, 05:21 PM

awesome truck. My concerns for myself would be towing every weekend as I do with 35" tires and that much HP from a 6 cylinder also the 10 speed tranny?? would that thing be constantly hunting for the right gear??

sherob · 09-30-2016, 05:37 PM

PSSSSST... don't tell anyone, but 16% of the construction of a F-22 Raptor uses aluminum alloy.

crysalis_01 · 09-30-2016, 09:09 PM

My insurance went down from my old '06 F-150 FX4 supercrew to my current '13 F-150 FX4 supercrew. As for longevity my 3.5EB is currently at 103k+ miles only maintenance needed this far beside regular oil changes has been new plugs at 100k.

When it comes to "repairs" most modern shops just do replacements. So as long as Ford has the parts available, then the repair costs are kept to a relative minimum, or at least on par with the old steel replacements.

enzia35 · 10-05-2016, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Expunge

I moderately liked the first gen Raptor, though it has its own issues.

But this 2nd gen.. F' the aluminum can that is the F150.

Aluminum does not hold up and is expensive to repair, and insurance companies know it.. which is why you have substantially higher rates for the F-150's
The twin turbo V6 is too little motor for that size of vehicle. Good luck with longevity.

F stands for Fail.

That last sentence definitely describes your post.

enzia35 · 10-05-2016, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by trashmanssd

awesome truck. My concerns for myself would be towing every weekend as I do with 35" tires and that much HP from a 6 cylinder also the 10 speed tranny?? would that thing be constantly hunting for the right gear??

You know that 10 speed is the same one going in the zl1, right?

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09-29-2016, 02:54 PM	#5
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crysalis_01 Iron fist, lead foot Drives: 2003 Mustang Cobra Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,243	My insurance went down from my old '06 F-150 FX4 supercrew to my current '13 F-150 FX4 supercrew. As for longevity my 3.5EB is currently at 103k+ miles only maintenance needed this far beside regular oil changes has been new plugs at 100k. When it comes to "repairs" most modern shops just do replacements. So as long as Ford has the parts available, then the repair costs are kept to a relative minimum, or at least on par with the old steel replacements. __________________ '03 SVT Cobra-SC4.6L V8 \|\| modded with mods'n'stuff

09-29-2016, 02:01 PM	#2
Expunge Drives: 2013 ZL1 M6, '99 Tahoe 2Dr Sport Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: South of Houston, TX Posts: 890 View My Garage	I moderately liked the first gen Raptor, though it has its own issues. But this 2nd gen.. F' the aluminum can that is the F150. Aluminum does not hold up and is expensive to repair, and insurance companies know it.. which is why you have substantially higher rates for the F-150's The twin turbo V6 is too little motor for that size of vehicle. Good luck with longevity. F stands for Fail.

09-30-2016, 05:21 PM	#10
trashmanssd Drives: Black 14 2SS/1LE/RS 14 Tundra Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Plymouth, Ma Posts: 2,414	awesome truck. My concerns for myself would be towing every weekend as I do with 35" tires and that much HP from a 6 cylinder also the 10 speed tranny?? would that thing be constantly hunting for the right gear??

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