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Old 09-27-2016, 11:42 AM   #15
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Rohana, Advanti, Konig and Forgestar are all wheels I've been considering. Probably going with Rohana's.

For sway bars, there's Strano, BMR, AFE and Hellwig. Probably doing BMR based on availability and design.
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Forgestar (CF5, CF5V, CF10, F14)

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Old 09-27-2016, 01:23 PM   #16
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For sway bars, there's Strano, BMR, AFE and Hellwig. Probably doing BMR based on availability and design.
The BMR adjustable bar looks like 1.25" x .250w. That is the same size as the front bar that comes in the Hellwig set, which is what I tested at Crows Landing.

IMO, that's too much for the stock rear bar in F-Street trim, even on the softest setting. The Strano bar is 1.25" x .188w, which effectively softens each setting by the equivalent of one hole. I run mine on soft, and the car works very well.
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Old 09-27-2016, 04:54 PM   #17
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The BMR adjustable bar looks like 1.25" x .250w. That is the same size as the front bar that comes in the Hellwig set, which is what I tested at Crows Landing.

IMO, that's too much for the stock rear bar in F-Street trim, even on the softest setting. The Strano bar is 1.25" x .188w, which effectively softens each setting by the equivalent of one hole. I run mine on soft, and the car works very well.
It is 1.25"x0.188" like the Strano:
http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showpo...4&postcount=17
http://www.lsxmag.com/tech-stories/b...sion-with-bmr/
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Old 09-28-2016, 09:56 AM   #18
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Very cool thread guys. Makes me wish I had a 6gen so I could set a car up for autocross.
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Old 09-30-2016, 10:19 AM   #19
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The front camber is that with crash bolts or just what they can get out of the car factory? I wonder if they will have crash bolts for it.
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Old 09-30-2016, 06:48 PM   #20
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This is all making me think the 1LE is definitely not going to be in f street anymore.

Meaning I'm gonna have to find my own combination of this as well when the time comes


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Old 09-30-2016, 08:35 PM   #21
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IF the 1LE does somehow get classed as FS.... would those of us with the 2016 be able to run the 1LE wheel sizes?
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Old 10-01-2016, 12:55 AM   #22
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IF the 1LE does somehow get classed as FS.... would those of us with the 2016 be able to run the 1LE wheel sizes?
No, that would not be legal.

I could see the 1LE SS being a good BS option. Or even CAM-C. CAM has some wild rules so pretty much anything goes.

STP could also be a place to play although you would have to downsize tires. I believe 285 is the current max allowed in STP.

STP was rather low on numbers so hopefully the STAC makes some changes to get numbers up.
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Old 10-01-2016, 01:50 AM   #23
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This is all making me think the 1LE is definitely not going to be in f street anymore.

Meaning I'm gonna have to find my own combination of this as well when the time comes


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With the performance we have already seen from the 2016 SS there is absolutely no way in Hell that the 1SS 1LE will get classed in FS. Its just too good of a car and it would completely upset the class. My guess is that it will go into AS where the GT350 (non R) is classed. I do believe that the V6 1LE will be allowed to run in FS and I think it will be an extremely tough competitor there.

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IF the 1LE does somehow get classed as FS.... would those of us with the 2016 be able to run the 1LE wheel sizes?
In order to run the 1SS 1LE wheel sizes you would have to perform a complete option package conversion and it would have to be on a vehicle that was manufactured in the same year that the option package was available from the factory. Since the 1LE package was not available in 2016 you would not be able to perform this type of conversion on your car. In addition the complete option package conversion would entail replacing or adding the magnaride with the special tuning of the 1LE along with any special suspension components that were different from the base SS. You would also have to install the correct rear gears, e-diff, six piston Brembo brakes and rotors. If the cooling package is different between the 1LE and the SS you might have to change that as well since there could be a weight difference.

Thats a hell of a lot of work and expense just to keep the car in a street class, likely to be AS, where it will have an uphill battle against the C5 and C6 Z06 Vettes which dominate there due to their higher HP and a lot less weight. If it gets classed in BS it "should" have an easier time against the C4 and C5 non Z06 Vettes although they will still have a significant weight advantage. Bottom line although I think the 6th Gen 1SS 1LE will be the performance bargain of the century and I would love to have one, I think it may end up being uncompetitive in any of the SCCA Street classes and we are unlikely to see any 6th Gen 1LE winning a Nationals event in Street. However it could be a phenomenal inexpensive CAM car. (if there is such a thing) In the end if your goal is to get a car to be competitive in SCCA Street classes I think the regular SS's will be the car to get and run in F-Street.
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Old 10-03-2016, 03:43 PM   #24
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Meaning I'm gonna have to find my own combination of this as well when the time comes


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It wont be in F street.

From what I've heard it will be A Street or B Street.
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Old 10-03-2016, 07:09 PM   #25
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It wont be in F street.



From what I've heard it will be A Street or B Street.


I figured as much. I'm leaning towards running NASA though now more so than SCCA.

Not autocross though.


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Old 10-04-2016, 12:28 AM   #26
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With the performance we have already seen from the 2016 SS there is absolutely no way in Hell that the 1SS 1LE will get classed in FS. Its just too good of a car and it would completely upset the class. My guess is that it will go into AS where the GT350 (non R) is classed. I do believe that the V6 1LE will be allowed to run in FS and I think it will be an extremely tough competitor there.



In order to run the 1SS 1LE wheel sizes you would have to perform a complete option package conversion and it would have to be on a vehicle that was manufactured in the same year that the option package was available from the factory. Since the 1LE package was not available in 2016 you would not be able to perform this type of conversion on your car. In addition the complete option package conversion would entail replacing or adding the magnaride with the special tuning of the 1LE along with any special suspension components that were different from the base SS. You would also have to install the correct rear gears, e-diff, six piston Brembo brakes and rotors. If the cooling package is different between the 1LE and the SS you might have to change that as well since there could be a weight difference.

Thats a hell of a lot of work and expense just to keep the car in a street class, likely to be AS, where it will have an uphill battle against the C5 and C6 Z06 Vettes which dominate there due to their higher HP and a lot less weight. If it gets classed in BS it "should" have an easier time against the C4 and C5 non Z06 Vettes although they will still have a significant weight advantage. Bottom line although I think the 6th Gen 1SS 1LE will be the performance bargain of the century and I would love to have one, I think it may end up being uncompetitive in any of the SCCA Street classes and we are unlikely to see any 6th Gen 1LE winning a Nationals event in Street. However it could be a phenomenal inexpensive CAM car. (if there is such a thing) In the end if your goal is to get a car to be competitive in SCCA Street classes I think the regular SS's will be the car to get and run in F-Street.
There is no update/backdate in FS. You can't convert a 2016 to a 1LE. That's why putting the 1lE in FS is a problem beyond what it does to the rest of the class.
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Old 10-04-2016, 07:59 AM   #27
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SS to SS/1LE would only be an option package conversion for a 2017 SS, which is Street Category legal preparation.

Fitting the 1LE pieces to a 2016 SS is what would constitute update/backdate.


On edit, I suppose that means if you did convert a 2017 SS to 1LE spec, you'd then end up in whatever Street class a production 1LE gets put in.


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Old 11-01-2016, 10:30 AM   #28
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Well, here's a good idea.

TL;DR: 2.0T with brakes, intake, exhaust and most of the handling goodies.
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