[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by motorhead

They are built in and different on the 1LE and upcoming ZL1.

This answers my above question...how do you know this for sure? Only car I've seen close up was the black one, and that is not a production ready car.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

This answers my above question...how do you know this for sure? Only car I've seen close up was the black one, and that is not a production ready car.

It was just posted on here the other day. I can' remember in which thread, but I did read it.

[TMasticTB91]

Originally Posted by mjk3888

Make & Model = X:XX.XX ($ as tested price)

1. McLaren 570S = 1:34.58 ($219,770)
2. Shelby GT350R = 1:36.11 ($66,990 + $25,000 mentioned in video)
3. Porsche 911 Carrera S = 1:36.44 ($140,465)
4. Chevy Camaro SS 1LE = 1:37.78 ($45,700)
5. Dodge Viper ACR = 1:31.58 ($131,990)
6. Mercedes AMG GT S = 1:35.30 ($169,450)
7. Audi R8 V10 (Plus) = 1:34.23 ($198,850)
8. Acura NSX = 1:36.36 ($197,400)
9. Jag F-Type SVR = 1:38.75 ($147,945)
10. Nissan GT-R = 1:37.08 ($112,585)
11. BMW M4 GTS = 1:37.66 ($135,195)
12. Aston V12 Vantage S = 1:41.77 ($211,910)

Originally Posted by Ryephile

I'm not sure if anyone did it yet but the average as-tested price between the 12 cars (excluding the Shelby's nebulous ADM) is a scalding $148,187.50. I'm going to hazard that's more than 99% of people's budgets.

For fun I then did the average price excluding the GT350R and SS 1LE, and it shot up to $166,556.

You can now say with certainty the Viper ACR is an excellent value, but also that the GT350R and SS 1LE are on another planet in terms of value per lap time.

Originally Posted by bballr4567

The GT350 and 1LE offer outrageous performance for an amazing price.

Originally Posted by 90503

Pretty impressive crowd of cars. The 350R and 1LE should both be proud for hanging in with those others.

Congrats to both Ford and Chevy. Those are the cars most "drivers" will actually buy. For the price of either one you can't go wrong.

Originally Posted by FNxR3DNECK

I can't argue their point that the GT350R is better than the 1LE, and that's fine because my 1LE will cost about $40k less than most Rs haha nevertheless it was a good showing for ford and Chevy and a 4th place finish is amazing considering all of the cars it beat!

Given the listed pricing above, the 1LE costs half as much as the GT350R. I daresay that the Camaro SS 1LE is the best value performance/driver's car, possibly ever.

And kudos to Ford for the GT350R, what an absolutely amazing car. Chevy and Ford know what's up, being able to create a driving experience like this, smoking cars 2-3x the price.

[WhyUMad1LE]

Great showing by "People's Champs" Camaro and Mustang.

Although, many more people would be in a GT350R without ADM. But that's not Ford's fault I guess.

[slick3]

Originally Posted by NCSD

Well there it is, the 1LE is awesome!!! 4th place among cars that cost 2 to 5 times more. So now what are we gonna talk about for the next few months until one is actually ordered and produced.

lol Amen... Now that we know what we have been asking about for months. What are we going to complain/ talk about ?

[FNxR3DNECK]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

Does the 1LE have the same kinda ones that need to be added on like a regular SS? Have we confirmed there isn't a different, "permanent" design? If not, MT goofed big time by not installing them, or for that matter GM should have sent the car there with them on, unless it would have caused an issue with shipping...

Like Motorhead said they are built in and not removable on ZL1/1LE. But more importantly MT could not have "goofed" because Aaron Link was there to make sure everything was setup correctly.

[jonny5cam]

Originally Posted by whiteboyblues2001

That is not an AMG guy, that is the Pill. He knows that if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes like fact. So, he goes to every board and brings up a bunch of tinfoil-hat conspiracy theories to try to convince everyone that the Camaro does not perform as well as it clearly does. If you know you are wrong, you have to use these types of tactics (sowing doubt about the truth (Chevy brought a ringer), disparaging the reputation of those who bring the truth (the magazines are biased), etc...). These are all well known political tactics to intentionally mis-educate folks, again, because the person doing it knows that they can't use the truth, as the truth proves their enemies as correct.

I choose the truth. It is better to be right than be wrong while being a d*ck about it.

You just described CNN, NBC, etc. But very true!

[crankaholic]

Originally Posted by Jzap624

2016 SS 1LE is faster around Leguna Seca than 2012 ZL1 and 2014 Z28! Are you friggin kidding me!?!?!

2016 1LE 1:37.78
2014 Z28 1:37.82
2012 ZL1 1:39.20

60-0 in 94 feet, that is C6 Z06 territory.
1.09 of Avg Lat G, that's better than the track special Z28.

The 5th gen was athletic, but it was still a hippo... weight is the enemy of lap times

[Mountain]

I was really hoping the GT350R would win this.

I'm really curious why the Porsche got 3rd and 1LE got 4th. There was more good things to say about the Camaro than the Porsche...

What am I missing?

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by motorhead

Yah, I laugh at this entire thing ever year they do it. None if it makes sense other than to sell cars and magazines. You do realize that editors in magazines are the ones that coined that silly Phrase "drivers car". The definition of drivers car is, a car that can be driven relatively hard by a mediocre driver with less chance of failure. That's why the Viper would never win because you have to be a real driver order to make it perform to its potential without failure.

I love that new 1LE though. It would appear to be a great "drivers car"

No..just No!

Originally Posted by FNxR3DNECK

I disagree because the mediocre drivers said that the harder you push the Viper the less scary it seems.

A drivers car is simply are car that checks all the boxes, fast, fun, controlled, and makes you feel connected and in control at all times.

Yes!

[2cnd chance]

Great Job GM!!! GM definitely has it together in chassis development.

[WhyUMad1LE]

Originally Posted by Mountain

I was really hoping the GT350R would win this.

I'm really curious why the Porsche got 3rd and 1LE got 4th. There was more good things to say about the Camaro than the Porsche...

What am I missing?

To me it appeared that they liked the GT350R more than the McLaren, and the Camaro more than the 911. In the video they eliminated the Camaro from the final 3 solely because the Shelby was better.

But putting

1- Mustang
2- McLaren
3- Camaro
4- 911

would make a lot of people think they're sponsored by GM and Ford.

[Dmaxcc6spd]

Originally Posted by FNxR3DNECK

I can't argue their point that the GT350R is better than the 1LE, and that's fine because my 1LE will cost about $40k less than most Rs haha nevertheless it was a good showing for ford and Chevy and a 4th place finish is amazing considering all of the cars it beat!

To be politically incorrect - USA!!!

3 of the top 5 were American cars! What an accomplishment!

[bharabs]

I'm glad there are two cars which I may be able to afford in this lifetime among all those tested and I feel even better knowing that they are among the top 5 too.

To me its as simple as this. If I have 70K for a car, I will never think of a Camaro, the decision is simple. Now that I have less than 70K to spend on a car, this list is enough to make me buy a Camaro 1LE. Also, I just hope Ford continues the good work, so that when I will be rich enough to afford a 70K car, it still remains right there on the list.