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Old 09-16-2016, 03:45 PM   #1
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Axle-back - need to "cut"??

I recently picked up a new 2016 RS with the v6 and the 8a. Looking to do a simply bolt-on axle back system. Is it as simple as unbolting the stock axle-back and bolting on the new axle back? The reason I'm asking is that i've seen people state both, that you have to cut it, and others have told me it simply unbolts.

I'd like an aggressive axle-back that I can simply bolt on and then put the stock one back on when I'm ready for my next car.
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Old 09-16-2016, 04:38 PM   #2
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Any axle back you will need to cut somewhwrestling along the system.

If you don't plan to cut, you'd be looking into getting a full catback.

But pretty much all axlebacks on the camaro you'll end up cutting the rear mufflers, or mufflers in previous gens, to install aftermarket axlebacks.

Not a huge deal to do either. On the 5th gen is did mine in an autozone parking lot.

When you're ready to reinstall the stock one, a muffler shop can weld it back on, or just use exhaust band clamps. Easy fix
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Old 09-16-2016, 04:40 PM   #3
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Any axle back you will need to cut somewhwrestling along the system.

If you don't plan to cut, you'd be looking into getting a full catback.

But pretty much all axlebacks on the camaro you'll end up cutting the rear mufflers, or mufflers in previous gens, to install aftermarket axlebacks.

Not a huge deal to do either. On the 5th gen is did mine in an autozone parking lot.
Interesting, ok, Victor at RDP had given me the following info:

Hello Sir,
Not a problem. Axle back will be the way to go for you, they simply bolt off and on, very easy install. I think what system you would be looking at is the Borla ATAK, I feel that is the sound you are going for, but as I tell everybody Exhaust systems are a personal choice because everybodies ear picks things up differently. View the links below for the part numbers, one will be with NPP and one will be without. Just let me know what you choose and then we can work out special forum member pricing.

http://www.rdpstore.com/p-7883-camar...art-11927.aspx

http://www.rdpstore.com/p-7885-camar...art-11931.aspx

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Old 09-16-2016, 05:01 PM   #4
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Go to borlas site, and download the directions to any of their axlebacks.

You're cutting the stock mufflers off.

Just on logic, there's no bolts at the back end of the exhaust system to disconnect it. Especially after the rear axles.

So the only option is to cut.

Basically you cut at specified lengths, debur and slip the axlebacks on and using a clamp, clamp them down.

In the automotive sense it's bolting something on.

But it seems you're looking to bolt something to a flange hat pre exists. Not on this car.

But it's not hard to do. 1 hour at most for most people with minimal wrench skills
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Old 09-16-2016, 05:06 PM   #5
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I think even the full cat back requires cuts. I haven't seen anything but welds on the rearward side of the secondary cats. Even if you were to remove them it looks like only one side seems to have provisions for bolts, the other side looks to be welded from the pics i've seen.


Cutting the exhaust takes less than 5 minutes using a 20-30 dollar exhaust tube cutter tool. You'll have much more fun trying to get it out of the rubber hangers than cutting it.

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Nope a full cat back will actually unbolt and then you basically both the new one on check out the directions on either MagnaFlow or borla site they also have the MRT site where you can download the directions as well
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Old 09-16-2016, 05:11 PM   #7
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Thanks guys. My question to him was if I needed to cut anything off and that I wanted a simple bolt-on bolt-off system so that I could put it back to stock with zero ill effects when I sell the car in 6 months (about my usual ownership time!).

My '12 Mustang GT took my wife and I about 20 minutes start to finish and it was just unbolting the axle-back. When I look under the Camaro, it looks like there's a spot where it's bolted on. But on the link you sent, I see where it was cut about 2" in front of what I thought was the bolts for the axle-back. I'm not sure what that is exactly...
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Thanks guys. My question to him was if I needed to cut anything off and that I wanted a simple bolt-on bolt-off system so that I could put it back to stock with zero ill effects when I sell the car in 6 months (about my usual ownership time!).

My '12 Mustang GT took my wife and I about 20 minutes start to finish and it was just unbolting the axle-back. When I look under the Camaro, it looks like there's a spot where it's bolted on. But on the link you sent, I see where it was cut about 2" in front of what I thought was the bolts for the axle-back. I'm not sure what that is exactly...
Notta prob. I'm waiting for the borla S-Type to come out myself.

The little part that you're talking about is probably the Adaptive valve on the exhaust. it controls the sound levels and also has something to do with the exhaust velocity. If you go to phasetek and check out their website they have a picture of the entire underside of the v6 exhaust that you can check out and see where everything bolts up and some of the parts where you might have to cut. every exhaust or should I say axle back is different. MRT replaces more piping than MF or Borla does.
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If you buy the Borla Atak axle back, post a sound clip here in the forums.
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Old 09-19-2016, 08:38 AM   #10
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all axle backs you will need to run. the whole system from cats back is one whole piece

the question you need to ask your self is do you want weld in ones or clamp ones
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Old 09-19-2016, 08:41 AM   #11
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all axle backs you will need to run. the whole system from cats back is one whole piece

the question you need to ask your self is do you want weld in ones or clamp ones
I'd rather have "clamp" style so I could do it myself. The problem is, i'll want to put it back to stock at some point. But spending $1200 on a cat-back for this car, and a few HP seems a bit much.
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all axle backs you will need to run. the whole system from cats back is one whole piece

the question you need to ask your self is do you want weld in ones or clamp ones

???

Most all the axle backs and catback are all clamp on. Atleast the major brands. Haven't seen any you have to weld in, unless custom work is being done. And even if custom work is being done, they can make it so it clamps on just the same.

And with the catback they come in sections, so it's not really one piece.
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???

Most all the axle backs and catback are all clamp on. Atleast the major brands. Haven't seen any you have to weld in, unless custom work is being done. And even if custom work is being done, they can make it so it clamps on just the same.

And with the catback they come in sections, so it's not really one piece.
well the gm/ borla one is weld in i was asuming that some of them where weld ons. i just cut my suit case off and used 4 90s and cut the tips off the muffler then welded it all together

i was explaining that the stock system is all one piece no aftermarket!
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well the gm/ borla one is weld in i was asuming that some of them where weld ons. i just cut my suit case off and used 4 90s and cut the tips off the muffler then welded it all together

i was explaining that the stock system is all one piece no aftermarket!
Agreed, I have the gm/borla exhaust axle backs, they require cut and weld.
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