[merlin803]

Originally Posted by SayHelloToMyLittleFriend

LOL! I Watch his YouTube Channel and he actually gives the Camaro a good review! Like he said for him it came down to how it looked. Same here... I prefer the looks of the Gen 6 Camaro over the new Mustang. Now let the hate flow for me. I'll be bashed because the new Camaro looks like the old one (only IMHO better) LOL!

You will only be bashed in this thread...

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by merlin803

So, to summarize his video,

He has always been a Mustang person, dreamed of having one since he was a kid.
He thinks the Camaro is the better driving car in every way.
The Camaro costs a little more - possibly impacting sales.
Recommends the Camaro for those that don't have that "in your blood Mustang love".

So, pretty much saying what has been said for like 500 pages in this thread.

The Camaro is the better car and costs more. Yes, I think everyone here knows at this point.

The point was that the numbers don't mean as much as overall appeal and cost for the majority of consumers. The current sales data would support that.

[merlin803]

Originally Posted by motorhead

The point was that the numbers don't mean as much as overall appeal and cost for the majority of consumers. The current sales data would support that.

That actually wasn't the point, he specifically said it wasn't about the price difference.

If there was a point it is that he is admittedly a "Mustang guy" and just prefers it's looks and didn't care about the best performance.

Which there is nothing wrong with but isn't the indictment of the Camaro that the post tried to present it to be.

[HogsFan75]

Originally Posted by SayHelloToMyLittleFriend

LOL! I Watch his YouTube Channel and he actually gives the Camaro a good review! Like he said for him it came down to how it looked. Same here... I prefer the looks of the Gen 6 Camaro over the new Mustang. Now let the hate flow for me. I'll be bashed because the new Camaro looks like the old one (only IMHO better) LOL!

I watch his channel a lot too. He really loved the Camaro when he tested it. I was actually kinda surprised that he chose the mustang too be honest. But hey if you want to know why these cars aren't selling, listening to people that chose not to buy them tell you why is a good starting point.

[ssrs2lt]

The guy in video makes a few valid points including the chevy over engineered the camaro for the market which increased cost...I'm honestly surprised how much an ss convertible costs...to me personally the cost is too high..but ain't still buying a stang...

[ChevyRules]

Originally Posted by HogsFan75

I watch his channel a lot too. He really loved the Camaro when he tested it. I was actually kinda surprised that he chose the mustang too be honest. But hey if you want to know why these cars aren't selling, listening to people that chose not to buy them tell you why is a good starting point.

I don't think anything would have made him buy the Camaro. As already stated, the Mustang GT was his dream car. The GT would have had to been a huge POS in order for someone to give up on buying their childhood dream car. And the Mustang isn't a POS. Of course he speculates why the Camaro is struggling sales wise, but they weren't necessarily his reasons for not buying it.

[merlin803]

Originally Posted by ChevyRules

I don't think anything would have made him buy the Camaro. As already stated, the Mustang GT was his dream car. The GT would have had to been a huge POS in order for someone to give up on buying their childhood dream car. And the Mustang isn't a POS. Of course he speculates why the Camaro is struggling sales wise, but they weren't necessarily his reasons for not buying it.

And the irony is, it was his review of the Camaro SS on his channel that really made me want the 16 Camaro, the sheer joy and surprise on his face when he was driving the Camaro.....I had to show my wife that part (and she is not a car person, lol).

He even said that he was a "mustang guy" in that video but he sure was enjoying driving that Camaro.

After that, I knew that would be what I wanted to drive.

You can't put a price on walking out to drive to work every day and knowing how much you are going to enjoy that drive.

Makes it easier to go to work to pay for it, lol.

[bturner2]

I like others looked at all three pony cars before buying. I could afford any of the 3 in the trim I wanted. IMO you really couldn't go wrong with any of the 3. What settled it for me was the ability to get the car equipped the with what I wanted, performance and technology.

I eliminated the Challenger on technology. The platform needs a serious update starting with the power train. Both Ford and Chevy are offering better power, transmissions and creature comforts than the Mopar right now.

I eliminated the Mustang after agonizing between the two for months before actually sitting down and figuring out exactly what I wanted. I drive my car for work and my wife, who can't drive a stick does also occasionally. This meant the reasonable choice for us would be the auto. This put me in a box with the Mustang as I wanted a "special" car meaning something other than a base GT or SS. When I started looking at upgrade features I looked at the performance package on the GT and quickly discovered that it was not available if you bought an automatic. Furthermore the Premium GT gauge package didn't even have an oil pressure gauge (what sports car doesn't include a full gauge package?). What twisted me even more was that the performance package was something like $2400 and included additional coolers, a Torsen rear axle, upgraded shocks, struts and sway bars. This great deal for this package made me feel like I was getting cheated as these were features that I wanted but Ford wouldn't sell them to me because I was a apparently not deserving due to the transmission choice. This really turned me off to the Mustang. (BTW the performance package is available with autos but only in European export cars which ticked me off even more)

Conversely speaking I was able to choose exactly the options I wanted on the Camaro. For the money I felt this car was a far better value based on the aftermarket parts I'd have to buy to get the Mustang to equal my Camaro with Mag Ride, dual tone exhaust (love the adjustablility of these two options), sun roof (not even offered on the Mustang) and stereo that supports Android Auto. The only two things I really didn't like on the Camaro was the inability to choose spoiler delete and I'm not a fan of DLRs.

So 6 months living with my Camaro and still love getting in and driving it. I'm sure I would have been happy with the Mustang but why buy a 10 when you can have an 11.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by merlin803

That actually wasn't the point, he specifically said it wasn't about the price difference.

If there was a point it is that he is admittedly a "Mustang guy" and just prefers it's looks and didn't care about the best performance.

Which there is nothing wrong with but isn't the indictment of the Camaro that the post tried to present it to be.

It's okay. I'm a volunteer fireman.

[triggerjerk]

Well, what happens when Ford gives the GT a slight power bump, and makes the A10 available (in the GT)?
If those things happen for MY '18 I don't see this trend reversing.

[SayHelloToMyLittleFriend]

Originally Posted by triggerjerk

Well, what happens when Ford gives the GT a slight power bump, and makes the A10 available (in the GT)?
If those things happen for MY '18 I don't see this trend reversing.

Yuuup! The only thing that'll happen is the 'Stang guys will be the one bitchin' about the price. That's the same A10 on the ZL1 and that thing probably ain't cheap.

[txferrari]

Originally Posted by Thor142

Would you believe when I got my first Gen 5 I was shopping for a Hyundai Genesis coupe? People with no brand loyalty can be all over the place.

Ding ding ding. My past 5 cars have been.........'14 Zl1, '15 GTR, '16 Z06, '16 Lexus RC 350, '16 Silverado 1500 ME.

I have no loyalty. My next car will be the NSX.

[mr02Z/28]

I can't take it anymore, I'm going out this week and buying a 6th Gen now that I saw the Arctic Blue color .....

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by SayHelloToMyLittleFriend

Yuuup! The only thing that'll happen is the 'Stang guys will be the one bitchin' about the price. That's the same A10 on the ZL1 and that thing probably ain't cheap.

The SS will likely get it too. Right now the auto option is $300 different between the 6 speed auto in the Mustang and 8 speed in gen Camaro. It will likely be equal down the road.