Why Does Torque Response Feel Different On M6 Then A8

KoolHyperBlue · 07-22-2016, 08:29 PM

So I have 2016 2SS M6 and after driving it for one month and about 1100 miles,the only complaint I have is the torque response on a manual feels much different than a automatic . My friend has a 2016 2SS auto and when I drove his , you feel that jolt in ur seat when you step on the gas but in my manual I don't feel as much of a jolt when I stomp on the gas pedal . Anyone else feel this also ?

brutusvk · 07-22-2016, 08:38 PM

The automatic tends to keep the motor in the sweet spot of the torque curve.

MovieGuy · 07-22-2016, 08:58 PM

8 speeds vs 6 speeds you are GOING to feel a difference. Think about the gear ratios.

KoolHyperBlue · 07-22-2016, 09:30 PM

Yes I understand the gear ratio but still suprised I don't feel more of a jolt when I WOT

BahamaTodd · 07-22-2016, 09:43 PM

What exactly are you doing? From a standstill? Rolling?

KyleL · 07-22-2016, 09:46 PM

Oh sweet, another auto vs manual thread!!

MovieGuy · 07-22-2016, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KoolHyperBlue

Yes I understand the gear ratio but still suprised I don't feel more of a jolt when I WOT

I have the V6. But I have found I feel more of a pull if I go roughly 3/4 throttle than I do if I floor it.

KoolHyperBlue · 07-22-2016, 09:49 PM

Either from a standstill or roll I feel it . Also agree with hitting it 3/4 of the way , I feel a little more then if I hit the pedal all the way down and go wide open

fattyz28 · 07-22-2016, 09:52 PM

Gear selection is key!

z28guy30 · 07-22-2016, 09:56 PM

Because of the gear ratio/torque multiplication and the speed at which the 8l90E automatic transmission shifts at. Example: The A8 has a 4.56:1 first gear compared to a 2.66:1 first gear ratio of the TR6060 manual.

BradfordCamaro · 07-22-2016, 11:01 PM

4th gear is bad ass in the M6. Best gear.
Hit 4th and it is a totally different beast.

raptor5244 · 07-22-2016, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z28guy30

Because of the gear ratio/torque multiplication and the speed at which the 8l90E automatic transmission shifts at. Example: The A8 has a 4.56:1 first gear compared to a 2.66:1 first gear ratio of the TR6060 manual.

The rear axles ratios are different though, 3.73 in manual vs. 2.77 auto.
Link to all the gear ratios.

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=409961

raptor5244 · 07-22-2016, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoolHyperBlue

So I have 2016 2SS M6 and after driving it for one month and about 1100 miles,the only complaint I have is the torque response on a manual feels much different than a automatic . My friend has a 2016 2SS auto and when I drove his , you feel that jolt in ur seat when you step on the gas but in my manual I don't feel as much of a jolt when I stomp on the gas pedal . Anyone else feel this also ?

Is the jolt you are referring to the downshift of the automatic? You should get similar torque if you select the right gear in your manual. If you are crusing at 35mph in 4th gear and mash the pedal you will obviously not get the same torque as you would if you rev match and downshift into 2nd gear, which is what the auto will do if you mash the throttle.

Marine Corps · 07-23-2016, 12:36 AM

I totally agree regarding the A8. The WOT is amazing. It feels like the transmission is coming out of the floorboard.

07-22-2016, 08:29 PM	#1
KoolHyperBlue Drives: 2016 Hyper Blue 2SS -NPP,Mag Ride Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Westchester NY Posts: 125	Why Does Torque Response Feel Different On M6 Then A8 So I have 2016 2SS M6 and after driving it for one month and about 1100 miles,the only complaint I have is the torque response on a manual feels much different than a automatic . My friend has a 2016 2SS auto and when I drove his , you feel that jolt in ur seat when you step on the gas but in my manual I don't feel as much of a jolt when I stomp on the gas pedal . Anyone else feel this also ?

07-22-2016, 08:58 PM	#3
MovieGuy Drives: 2016 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Topeka KS Posts: 892	8 speeds vs 6 speeds you are GOING to feel a difference. Think about the gear ratios. __________________ Life after retirement

07-22-2016, 09:46 PM	#6
KyleL Drives: Slow Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 669	Oh sweet, another auto vs manual thread!! __________________ 2016 Toyota 4Runner 2017 Camaro ZL1

07-22-2016, 09:56 PM	#10
z28guy30 Drives: 2016 camaro 1ss Join Date: May 2011 Location: hawaii Posts: 326 View My Garage	Because of the gear ratio/torque multiplication and the speed at which the 8l90E automatic transmission shifts at. Example: The A8 has a 4.56:1 first gear compared to a 2.66:1 first gear ratio of the TR6060 manual. __________________ 2016 Camaro SS, Summit White, A8, MRC, Rally Stripes, Black Bowties.

07-22-2016, 11:01 PM	#11
BradfordCamaro SABIO Drives: 2016 CAMARO 1SS Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Bradford, ON Posts: 5,013	4th gear is bad ass in the M6. Best gear. Hit 4th and it is a totally different beast. __________________

07-22-2016, 08:38 PM	#2
brutusvk Drives: future 2016 SS Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 847	The automatic tends to keep the motor in the sweet spot of the torque curve.

07-22-2016, 09:30 PM	#4
KoolHyperBlue Drives: 2016 Hyper Blue 2SS -NPP,Mag Ride Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Westchester NY Posts: 125	Yes I understand the gear ratio but still suprised I don't feel more of a jolt when I WOT

07-22-2016, 09:43 PM	#5
BahamaTodd Drives: 08 Accord V6/M6 / 04 Canyon Z71 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Palm Beach, FL Posts: 1,078	What exactly are you doing? From a standstill? Rolling?

07-22-2016, 09:49 PM	#8
KoolHyperBlue Drives: 2016 Hyper Blue 2SS -NPP,Mag Ride Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Westchester NY Posts: 125	Either from a standstill or roll I feel it . Also agree with hitting it 3/4 of the way , I feel a little more then if I hit the pedal all the way down and go wide open

07-22-2016, 09:52 PM	#9
fattyz28 Drives: 20 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: AR Posts: 125	Gear selection is key!

07-23-2016, 12:36 AM	#14
Marine Corps Drives: 2016 2SS Garnet Red Camaro Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: San Francisco Bay Posts: 840	I totally agree regarding the A8. The WOT is amazing. It feels like the transmission is coming out of the floorboard. __________________ Ordered: 8/8/15, 2SS Garnet Red Built: 10/14/15 Current: Took Delivery, 12/24/15 Added Procharger supercharger.

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