ACS Composite rear Deck Lid Spoiler (Carbon Flash Metallic Black) Ordered! - Page 2

BreedsAS · 06-30-2016, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

How is the quality? I have seen the body kit pieces and they are really nice. Can you share some pictures?

I wasn't a fan of the price and agree it is on the higher side. I did pay $200 less for a real Carbon Fiber spoiler from Anvil Auto a few years ago, but that spoiler was a lot less involved.

I shall see how the quality is when I get, I fully expect amazing packaging and a flawless product for the price.

It looks to be of very good quality! I will post a thread later today with it installed . If you check my previous thread list, you'll see unboxed pics of it and the packaging.

BreedsAS · 06-30-2016, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 1hevy_chevy

it looks like sex.......but why so expensive? is that even real CF? I have been waiting for this only to be turned off by a price tag where I can get 2 other wings for that price

The price is really high. Compared to the GM blade that is almost unnoticeable, and cost $450, its not too bad.
The painted ACS price is way too much!

BreedsAS · 06-30-2016, 08:01 PM

Here are some pics of the CFM spoiler in the sun. I won't be able to get it on until Saturday though.

6LE Designs · 06-30-2016, 10:35 PM

You guys have to understand they are not GM. The mold to make that piece (assuming it is injection molded) was anywhere from $10,000 to $50,000 depending on complexity.

Yeah, they end up being able to make the piece stupid cheap (MAYBE $50?) but they have to recoup QUITE a large investment.

Even a good fiberglass mold will run you $5k on a spoiler. Then price per piece (in the USA, Chinese Duraflex crap is an entirely different story) for a good product is more than what GM charges retail (sometimes, especially a 3 piece).

GM has the benefit of the American tax payer footing their bill when their $20k molds don't pay off lol... aftermarket companies don't. It's hit or miss. We're still sitting on a $10k mold for the ZL1 style hood we made for the Silverado... and only sold 3 of in a year lol.

Sledgehammer70 · 07-01-2016, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 6LE Designs

You guys have to understand they are not GM. The mold to make that piece (assuming it is injection molded) was anywhere from $10,000 to $50,000 depending on complexity.

Yeah, they end up being able to make the piece stupid cheap (MAYBE $50?) but they have to recoup QUITE a large investment.

Even a good fiberglass mold will run you $5k on a spoiler. Then price per piece (in the USA, Chinese Duraflex crap is an entirely different story) for a good product is more than what GM charges retail (sometimes, especially a 3 piece).

GM has the benefit of the American tax payer footing their bill when their $20k molds don't pay off lol... aftermarket companies don't. It's hit or miss. We're still sitting on a $10k mold for the ZL1 style hood we made for the Silverado... and only sold 3 of in a year lol.

Oh I get it... I just know I paid a lot less for a real Carbon fiber spoiler. I guess they don't plan on selling many of these at the price point they have.

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Originally Posted by BreedsAS

Here are some pics of the CFM spoiler in the sun. I won't be able to get it on until Saturday though.

Looks sick! Can't wait to get mine.

pjz1082 · 07-01-2016, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 6LE Designs

You guys have to understand they are not GM. The mold to make that piece (assuming it is injection molded) was anywhere from $10,000 to $50,000 depending on complexity.

Yeah, they end up being able to make the piece stupid cheap (MAYBE $50?) but they have to recoup QUITE a large investment.

Even a good fiberglass mold will run you $5k on a spoiler. Then price per piece (in the USA, Chinese Duraflex crap is an entirely different story) for a good product is more than what GM charges retail (sometimes, especially a 3 piece).

GM has the benefit of the American tax payer footing their bill when their $20k molds don't pay off lol... aftermarket companies don't. It's hit or miss. We're still sitting on a $10k mold for the ZL1 style hood we made for the Silverado... and only sold 3 of in a year lol.

So if they sell enough, will the price go down? I kind of doubt it. These are all things that need to be figured out prior to production. If it's not going to be a cost effective venture, maybe you don't make it. Especially if the market is considerably lower.

No matter how you explain it, $650 for an unpainted spoiler is A LOT of money and not many people will be able to afford it, IMO. And I am one of them. It's a shame because it's a beautiful design.

Who knows, maybe I am completely off base and they will sell a bunch of them. In any case, I think it's important they get feedback, that's what these forums are for.

Best of luck to all!

moonrider · 07-01-2016, 01:49 PM

The more I see the aftermarket spoilers, the more I like the stock spoiler.
I'm sure I will post something on your install video and say that its ugly or something like that. haha

Top_Agent · 07-02-2016, 12:06 AM

I just saw this today and I wonder if Lethal (OP)was going to showcase it on his YouTube channel. I guess he is. I plan on getting it as well.

nvrsatisfied · 07-02-2016, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pjz1082

So if they sell enough, will the price go down? I kind of doubt it. These are all things that need to be figured out prior to production. If it's not going to be a cost effective venture, maybe you don't make it. Especially if the market is considerably lower.

No matter how you explain it, $650 for an unpainted spoiler is A LOT of money and not many people will be able to afford it, IMO. And I am one of them. It's a shame because it's a beautiful design.

Who knows, maybe I am completely off base and they will sell a bunch of them. In any case, I think it's important they get feedback, that's what these forums are for.

Best of luck to all!

You're not off base at all. Many will sit and wait for a more affordable spoiler and they will be available soon.

Blacksapphire · 07-02-2016, 03:53 AM

maybe if a third brake light was integrated into the spoiler it would make sense for it to be that price. I really like the look and I was one of the guys that was going to stick with his stock spoiler until I saw this one. The price has to go down if they want to make their money back. Obviously this is all my opinion and Camaro 6 could be filled with a bunch of wealthy people.

1hevy_chevy · 07-02-2016, 09:08 AM

Pricing it higher doesn't mean you're going to make up for the cost of your 5k-10k mold. No one will buy something if there are other similar items for less money. 650 for this unpainted spoiler just means it looks EFFIN SICK!........but will make my wallet sick too!

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jamminj007 · 07-03-2016, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

I am pretty pumped as I just order the ACS Composite Deck Lid Rear Spoiler. I went with the Carbon Flash Metallic Black setup.

I ordered this piece from Phastek Performance as Ricardo is simply awesome!

As always... look for an unboxing, install and review over on my channel! (link in my signature)

I like it, but the sides look "off" to me. I think if they tapered down more to body it would look more appealing. It may look completely different mounted in person, but for me the sides needs to be closer to the body line that or make it a 3 piece spoiler

BAMF · 07-03-2016, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BreedsAS

Here are some pics of the CFM spoiler in the sun. I won't be able to get it on until Saturday though.

...am I the only one that sees this?

BAMF · 07-03-2016, 02:47 AM

O_O

06-30-2016, 08:01 PM	#17
BreedsAS Drives: 16 Camaro: Mosaic/2SS/A8/NPP/Custom Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: DFW Posts: 420	Here are some pics of the CFM spoiler in the sun. I won't be able to get it on until Saturday though. Attached Images __________________ '16 Chevy Camaro 2SS Auto - Mosaic Black l Kalahari Interior l NPP l Nav l Sunroof. Prismatic 22" concave Koko Wheels l Lexani Tires l GM Splitter l ACS Rockers l ACS Spoiler l BMR Drop l Limo tint l Smoked Lighting l Debadged l LEDs l WeatherTech l More to come... YouTube Channel:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq4...9-q-ccCuqVONUw

07-02-2016, 12:06 AM	#22
Top_Agent Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 39	I just saw this today and I wonder if Lethal (OP)was going to showcase it on his YouTube channel. I guess he is. I plan on getting it as well. __________________ 2016 Camaro 2SS / Silver / 8 Speed Auto / NPP / Black OEM front fascia extension / ACS Composite spoiler / M228 Gloss Black Wheels / Red Calipers / BF Goodrich G Force Comps 2 A/S Front: 285/35/20 Rear: 305/35/20 / Black Gloss Wrapped Roof

07-02-2016, 09:08 AM	#25
1hevy_chevy Drives: Nightfall Gray 2016 6M 2SS Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Miami Fl Posts: 415 View My Garage	ACS Composite rear Deck Lid Spoiler (Carbon Flash Metallic Black) Ordered! Pricing it higher doesn't mean you're going to make up for the cost of your 5k-10k mold. No one will buy something if there are other similar items for less money. 650 for this unpainted spoiler just means it looks EFFIN SICK!........but will make my wallet sick too! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Rotofab CAI, Mishimoto Catch Can. Other than that Stocky-McGee for now

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06-30-2016, 10:35 PM	#18
6LE Designs Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Valley Village, CA Posts: 636	You guys have to understand they are not GM. The mold to make that piece (assuming it is injection molded) was anywhere from $10,000 to $50,000 depending on complexity. Yeah, they end up being able to make the piece stupid cheap (MAYBE $50?) but they have to recoup QUITE a large investment. Even a good fiberglass mold will run you $5k on a spoiler. Then price per piece (in the USA, Chinese Duraflex crap is an entirely different story) for a good product is more than what GM charges retail (sometimes, especially a 3 piece). GM has the benefit of the American tax payer footing their bill when their $20k molds don't pay off lol... aftermarket companies don't. It's hit or miss. We're still sitting on a $10k mold for the ZL1 style hood we made for the Silverado... and only sold 3 of in a year lol.

07-01-2016, 01:49 PM	#21
moonrider Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Moon Township, PA Posts: 474	The more I see the aftermarket spoilers, the more I like the stock spoiler. I'm sure I will post something on your install video and say that its ugly or something like that. haha

07-02-2016, 03:53 AM	#24
Blacksapphire Drives: 2ss/rs 6A Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 123 View My Garage	maybe if a third brake light was integrated into the spoiler it would make sense for it to be that price. I really like the look and I was one of the guys that was going to stick with his stock spoiler until I saw this one. The price has to go down if they want to make their money back. Obviously this is all my opinion and Camaro 6 could be filled with a bunch of wealthy people.

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