[david borla]

Originally Posted by JoeAyalaM

I'm to type this but YOUR SYSTEM PRICING IS CRAZY .

I'm interested in a relatively quiet full Cat back, it would ONLY cost $2,428.97 Dollars !!!!! and it is not the most expensive one option either since I don´t need NPP.

It would have to include: Camaro SS 2016 Rear Section Exhaust S-Type part # 11922 ($818.99) + Camaro SS 6.2L 2016 X-Pipe w/Mid Pipes part # 60610 ($1188.99) + Camaro SS 2016 Resonator part # 60608 ($420.99). WOW, I thought these are Stainless Steel parts for a Camaro, not Titanium ones for an exotic.

BORLA: Is this assumption correct, or I am missing something?

This is what you are looking for and it's $819.00 direct from us. A little less from resellers - https://www.borla.com/products/camar...rt__11922.html

For the record it's 1/3 the price you quote above.

Sorry for the confusion but we offer dozens upon dozens of configurations and it's hard to find the one you're looking for.

Working on a more understandable method to identify the right Borla system for your needs.

Anyhow, about $800, not $2,500.

Cheers!

[Aboynamedsue]

Originally Posted by david borla

This is what you are looking for and it's $819.00 direct from us. A little less from resellers - https://www.borla.com/products/camar...rt__11922.html

For the record it's 1/3 the price you quote above.

Sorry for the confusion but we offer dozens upon dozens of configurations and it's hard to find the one you're looking for.

Working on a more understandable method to identify the right Borla system for your needs.

Anyhow, about $800, not $2,500.

Cheers!

Now I am confused. It seems as though he wants a cat back, and you quoted an axle back, unless I am missing something.

Can you please clarify?

[david borla]

Originally Posted by Aboynamedsue

Now I am confused. It seems as though he wants a cat back, and you quoted an axle back, unless I am missing something.

Can you please clarify?

My recommendation for this particular Camaro owner is to start with the S-Type rear section and see if that fits his needs. He can add an X-pipe later if he feels he wants to refine the sound further. After the X-pipe he can add the touring resonator for even further sound attenuation if necessary but I think he's going to love the S-Type rear section and won't want to spend any more.

This is good example of why we implemented a modular strategy for the new Camaro. It allows enthusiasts to take small bites and mix and match as they need.

[Aboynamedsue]

Originally Posted by david borla

My recommendation for this particular Camaro owner is to start with the S-Type rear section and see if that fits his needs. He can add an X-pipe later if he feels he wants to refine the sound further. After the X-pipe he can add the touring resonator for even further sound attenuation if necessary but I think he's going to love the S-Type rear section and won't want to spend any more.

This is good example of why we implemented a modular strategy for the new Camaro. It allows enthusiasts to take small bites and mix and match as they need.

Makes sense. Thank you.

[JoeAyalaM]

Originally Posted by david borla

This is what you are looking for and it's $819.00 direct from us. A little less from resellers - https://www.borla.com/products/camar...rt__11922.html

For the record it's 1/3 the price you quote above.

Sorry for the confusion but we offer dozens upon dozens of configurations and it's hard to find the one you're looking for.

Working on a more understandable method to identify the right Borla system for your needs.

Anyhow, about $800, not $2,500.

Cheers!

In other words: IT'S NOT A QUIET (Touring) CAT BACK LIKE YOU WANTED, BUT YOU CAN STILL GET RIPPED BUYING OUR LOUDER (S-Type) AXLE BACK FOR LESS.

Uhmmm, thanks David, I'll think about it.

I guess the Mustang crowd has their laugh when they see the pricing for the Camaro's aftermarket.

[david borla]

Originally Posted by JoeAyalaM

In other words: IT'S NOT A QUIET (Touring) CAT BACK LIKE YOU WANTED, BUT YOU CAN STILL GET RIPPED BUYING OUR LOUDER (S-Type) AXLE BACK FOR LESS.

Uhmmm, thanks David, I'll think about it.

I guess the Mustang crowd has their laugh when they see the pricing for the Camaro's aftermarket.

Joe,

You're going to like our S-Type rear section and though I don't know you, I'm confident enough in your sincerity that I'll make you an offer I can't offer to everyone (or anyone else unfortunately).

Here's my offer - Buy our S-Type rear section with no valves (non-NPP) and drive with it for a week. If you find it objectionable after that time, or it just doesn't meet your needs, I'll allow you to return it, even though there are no defects, and I will refund the money you paid for the system as well as installation (keep your invoices).

I even have a distributor in Mexico that can get it to you.

Sound is subjective, I don't find the S-Type system to be too loud but you might feel differently.

We hardly sold any Touring systems for the 2010-2015 Camaro because everyone wanted S-Type or ATAK. Most of the Touring systems we did sell for the Camaro5 went on cars with Long Tube Headers but we now have systems built especially for Long Tubes on Camaro6 and we recommend those for anyone with Long Tube headers.

The main impetus for us offering the Touring Resonator Option on Camaro6 is mostly because someone with an S-Type or ATAK system is going to sell their car eventually and the new buyer may want to tone it down.

Anyhow, very little risk for you with my offer. That's how confident I am in our S-Type system.

Sorry I can't offer this to anyone else so please don't inundate me with requests for this. I'm sure you understand why.

[timmy8784]

Originally Posted by david borla

Joe,

You're going to like our S-Type rear section and though I don't know you, I'm confident enough in your sincerity that I'll make you an offer I can't offer to everyone (or anyone else unfortunately).

Here's my offer - Buy our S-Type rear section with no valves (non-NPP) and drive with it for a week. If you find it objectionable after that time, or it just doesn't meet your needs, I'll allow you to return it, even though there are no defects, and I will refund the money you paid for the system as well as installation (keep your invoices).

I even have a distributor in Mexico that can get it to you.

Sound is subjective, I don't find the S-Type system to be too loud but you might feel differently.

We hardly sold any Touring systems for the 2010-2015 Camaro because everyone wanted S-Type or ATAK. Most of the Touring systems we did sell for the Camaro5 went on cars with Long Tube Headers but we now have systems built especially for Long Tubes on Camaro6 and we recommend those for anyone with Long Tube headers.

The main impetus for us offering the Touring Resonator Option on Camaro6 is mostly because someone with an S-Type or ATAK system is going to sell their car eventually and the new buyer may want to tone it down.

Anyhow, very little risk for you with my offer. That's how confident I am in our S-Type system.

Sorry I can't offer this to anyone else so please don't inundate me with requests for this. I'm sure you understand why.

I guess I don't understand why....someone complained about price and you are willing to allow a no obligation test of the system for a full refund price because you stand behind your product, but you won't offer that to anyone else?

Going back a few pages, there are tons of posts (including my own) complaining about the prices. Confused why you would publicly make ONE exception.

[JoeAyalaM]

Originally Posted by david borla

Joe,

You're going to like our S-Type rear section and though I don't know you, I'm confident enough in your sincerity that I'll make you an offer I can't offer to everyone (or anyone else unfortunately).

Here's my offer - Buy our S-Type rear section with no valves (non-NPP) and drive with it for a week. If you find it objectionable after that time, or it just doesn't meet your needs, I'll allow you to return it, even though there are no defects, and I will refund the money you paid for the system as well as installation (keep your invoices).

I even have a distributor in Mexico that can get it to you.

Sound is subjective, I don't find the S-Type system to be too loud but you might feel differently.

We hardly sold any Touring systems for the 2010-2015 Camaro because everyone wanted S-Type or ATAK. Most of the Touring systems we did sell for the Camaro5 went on cars with Long Tube Headers but we now have systems built especially for Long Tubes on Camaro6 and we recommend those for anyone with Long Tube headers.

The main impetus for us offering the Touring Resonator Option on Camaro6 is mostly because someone with an S-Type or ATAK system is going to sell their car eventually and the new buyer may want to tone it down.

Anyhow, very little risk for you with my offer. That's how confident I am in our S-Type system.

Sorry I can't offer this to anyone else so please don't inundate me with requests for this. I'm sure you understand why.

Dear David,
I appreciatte your kind offer , and will contact your local distributor to order the axle back. Thank you very much. I hope it'll perform as you mention and will come back here with impressions/recommendations.

Originally Posted by timmy8784

Confused why you would publicly make ONE exception.

Don´t be sour , you might consider this will be sold for Mexico, it is a large underexploited market, and I'm a very active member in the local car community, the second largest in the country.

[david borla]

Originally Posted by timmy8784

I guess I don't understand why....someone complained about price and you are willing to allow a no obligation test of the system for a full refund price because you stand behind your product, but you won't offer that to anyone else?

Going back a few pages, there are tons of posts (including my own) complaining about the prices. Confused why you would publicly make ONE exception.

No worries, I sent you a PM. His complaint is really that there is no Touring rear section. I didn't see anyone else complaining about that specifically. If more people want a Touring rear section we'll make one available. However, that would be inconsistent with what we've learned about Camaro owners since the Camaro5 was released in 2010.

Hardly anyone wants a Touring rear section and those that do usually have Long Tube Headers for which we have a specific solution now rendering the Touring rear section unnecessary for them.

Most of the rest of those that feel they might want a Touring rear section will be surprised how happy they are with S-Type because it's only loud where you want it to be.

Others are concerned about drone and think they need the Touring rear section to handle drone but there is no drone in any of our rear sections or cat-backs for the Camaro6.

Are there really that many of you looking for a Touring rear section? Maybe our research provided erroneous results?

If so, let me know and we'll make one.

[MAtRiX_757]

Have you guys done any testing on what it would like to combine one of the rear sections with an h-pipe instead? I like that classic growl more.

[Hyper16]

All of y'all need to stop whining about pricing. If you want to buy cheap $hit, that is what you are going to get. You are driving a 40K+ sports car. Act like it. Borla makes awesome products. I just installed the non-NPP version of the S-type with quad tips. Yes, I changed the rear facia to accommodate the tips. Well worth the price. And, since I only installed the axle-back, I still have many options for future add-ons. However, I doubt if any changes will be necessary. Those mufflers sound great. Relatively quiet when cruising but step on it and everyone around will stop and look. Trust me. David, keep up the good work.

[AdmAnt13]

Originally Posted by Hyper16

All of y'all need to stop whining about pricing. If you want to buy cheap $hit, that is what you are going to get. You are driving a 40K+ sports car. Act like it. Borla makes awesome products. I just installed the non-NPP version of the S-type with quad tips. Yes, I changed the rear facia to accommodate the tips. Well worth the price. And, since I only installed the axle-back, I still have many options for future add-ons. However, I doubt if any changes will be necessary. Those mufflers sound great. Relatively quiet when cruising but step on it and everyone around will stop and look. Trust me. David, keep up the good work.

Well said..

[jazyjason]

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[david borla]

Originally Posted by jazyjason

Hey I have an order in for the non npp atak exhaust part number 11923. Ordered from summit racing and now they said you guys won't have any to ship till July? Can you guys confirm when you'll have another batch to ship? Thanks : D

Might be a some confusion. We've committed to have all the new Camaro parts in stock by July 1st. That particular part number 11923 will actually be ready to ship around Tuesday of next week. Send me a PM with your order number from Summit and I'll find out what's going on.