[mjk3888]

I keep finding great bargains even on A/C cars that make me second guess my wait for the 1LE, but cooler heads prevailed and I remembered that DD'ing on Trofeo R's and Carbon Ceramics probably isn't the brightest idea.

Here's one in Orlando for $47,999

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...22023112&Log=0

[SS 1LE]

This is what I said in your other thread about this car:

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showpo...65&postcount=2

[summit1le]

Off lease only specializes in purchasing all of the less desirables at the auction. There is nothing "off lease" about it.

[crabman]

If anyone at GM has a functional brain this should be telling them not producing a 2SS 1LE is a big mistake.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by crabman

If anyone at GM has a functional brain this should be telling them not producing a 2SS 1LE is a big mistake.

I think this shows the exact opposite. Offer a Camaro with too high a price tag, and nobody will buy it.

I wonder how many people that cry foul at GM not offering a 2SS 1LE, would actually buy one when they see what it would cost.

A 2SS is already what, $5000 more than a 1SS? So, using that logic, a 2SS 1LE in all likelihood will be no less than $10,000 over a 1SS.

That sounds like a sales disaster to me, except for the very small pool of people on this site that are so vocal it makes it seem like there is real demand for such an expensive SS.

When looking at the price breakdown, I think GM did the right thing adding HUD and Suede Recaros to the 1SS and not offering a 2SS version. This offers an amazing package without reaching a price most would not pay.

[Lucely Engineered]

I could never get over the interiors now. I feel like i'm in the Fiances 2015 Malibu every time i've sat in once since having my 6th gen.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

I think this shows the exact opposite. Offer a Camaro with too high a price tag, and nobody will buy it.

I wonder how many people that cry foul at GM not offering a 2SS 1LE, would actually buy one when they see what it would cost.

A 2SS is already what, $5000 more than a 1SS? So, using that logic, a 2SS 1LE in all likelihood will be no less than $10,000 over a 1SS.

That sounds like a sales disaster to me, except for the very small pool of people on this site that are so vocal it makes it seem like there is real demand for such an expensive SS.

When looking at the price breakdown, I think GM did the right thing adding HUD and Suede Recaros to the 1SS and not offering a 2SS version. This offers an amazing package without reaching a price most would not pay.

They don't have built one unless someone orders it. I don't see a disaster here. They only extra cost GM may have is changing the marketing literature. I would consider a 1LE over waiting for a ZL1 if it were available in 2SS trim. On second thought, that may be what they are worried about. A 2SS 1LE cutting in on ZL1 sales. I doubt it though.

[BigEnos]

Autotrader has a carfax report available for this car. Right front impact with "moderate" damage, but no airbag deployment.

http://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory...&partner=ATD_W

[mjk3888]

That would explain it.

Even still lots of Z/28's to be found for less than 55k

[HyperBlueX2]

Originally Posted by crabman

If anyone at GM has a functional brain this should be telling them not producing a 2SS 1LE is a big mistake.

The issue with no 2SS offering is to keep weight down...

You will see why....

[mjk3888]

Originally Posted by Hyperblue16vert

The issue with no 2SS offering is to keep weight down...

You will see why....

The 1LE is going to have almost the same weight as a standard 1SS. Maybe even a little heavier. I bet 99.9% of everyone on this forum can't tell the difference between the weight of a 1SS and a 2SS without scales.

People who keep insisting the 1LE MUST be a 1SS for weight savings act like this car is going to weight 3300-3400. I bet this car lands right between a base 1SS and a fully loaded auto 2SS. So likely a little over 3700.

[ST1LE]

Originally Posted by mjk3888

The 1LE is going to have almost the same weight as a standard 1SS. Maybe even a little heavier. I bet 99.9% of everyone on this forum can't tell the difference between the weight of a 1SS and a 2SS without scales.

People who keep insisting the 1LE MUST be a 1SS for weight savings act like this car is going to weight 3300-3400. I bet this car lands right between a base 1SS and a fully loaded auto 2SS. So likely a little over 3700.

Then it will already be as fat as GM wants it I think.

[crabman]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

I think this shows the exact opposite. Offer a Camaro with too high a price tag, and nobody will buy it...

We're not going to agree, if the car was more palatable to drive daily they sell more. As it is it's not and few people go to the track enough to justify buying a car strictly for that duty at any cost. I would agree the price is an issue but it applies to all cars, every 10k over 40 cuts the potential market roughly in half. Don't know the numbers on a car that is strictly a toy but I'm confident they're worse.

Originally Posted by Hyperblue16vert

The issue with no 2SS offering is to keep weight down...

You will see why....

That one has been thoroughly debunked, dimming rear view mirrors weigh little more than their more mundane counterparts. The sunroof they are going to offer on the 1LE weighs more than the total of 2SS. This is to say nothing of the fact that either way it would make zero difference on a lap time for anyone who posted here and more than 99 percent of all mileage on these cars will be accrued on the street.

It isn't weight, its a placement/marketing decision and one they will change if history is an indication.

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by mjk3888

The 1LE is going to have almost the same weight as a standard 1SS. Maybe even a little heavier. I bet 99.9% of everyone on this forum can't tell the difference between the weight of a 1SS and a 2SS without scales.

People who keep insisting the 1LE MUST be a 1SS for weight savings act like this car is going to weight 3300-3400. I bet this car lands right between a base 1SS and a fully loaded auto 2SS. So likely a little over 3700.

Originally Posted by crabman

That one has been thoroughly debunked, dimming rear view mirrors weigh little more than their more mundane counterparts. The sunroof they are going to offer on the 1LE weighs more than the total of 2SS. This is to say nothing of the fact that either way it would make zero difference on a lap time for anyone who posted here and more than 99 percent of all mileage on these cars will be accrued on the street.

It isn't weight, its a placement/marketing decision and one they will change if history is an indication.

So you both are arguing with a GM employee...