[SS 1LE]

Hard to belive nobody has brought these to market yet.

Heck, we barely have any non-MRC lowering springs available...

[Richard0nee]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

Hard to belive nobody has brought these to market yet.

Heck, we barely have any non-MRC lowering springs available...

Right? LOL

I don't have MRC and Eiback mentioned that in July they will have sets for the 16 Camaro.

[MIAMI2SSRS]

Originally Posted by Richard0nee

Right? LOL

I don't have MRC and Eiback mentioned that in July they will have sets for the 16 Camaro.

Thanks for the info. Will this be a set for the MRC equipped cars or a set for non-MRC equipped cars? Do you know by any chance?

[mjw930]

MRC is calibrated to the specific car, including spring rates. Change the springs and you screw up the system. The only one I would trust would be a GM Performance part that included a new calibration for the MRC system. The only other possible option would be a shorter spring with the exact same spring rate as stock.

[AbsolutHank]

Originally Posted by mjw930

MRC is calibrated to the specific car, including spring rates. Change the springs and you screw up the system. The only one I would trust would be a GM Performance part that included a new calibration for the MRC system. The only other possible option would be a shorter spring with the exact same spring rate as stock.

I wish people would stop spreading misinformation like this. Go check Camaro5 ZL1 forums, or CTS-V forums since 2009 for lowered cars with MRC. You cannot slam a MRC car, but a 1-1.5" drop is completely within the range of the shocks with no adverse effects.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by AbsolutHank

I wish people would stop spreading misinformation like this. Go check Camaro5 ZL1 forums, or CTS-V forums since 2009 for lowered cars with MRC. You cannot slam a MRC car, but a 1-1.5" drop is completely within the range of the shocks with no adverse effects.

You are correct sir...lots of misinformation on the subject. Yes, MRC is more sensitive to lowering, but it can be done and has been done.

[Tr6]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

You are correct sir...lots of misinformation on the subject. Yes, MRC is more sensitive to lowering, but it can be done and has been done.

Yeah... It just takes a lot longer time to get it right and does need A LOT more testing done to it compared to non-mrc springs.

Best thing to do is stop worrying about when it will come out and just wait till it actually comes out because if you don't it will drive you crazy lol. I want the MRC springs quite a lot but since I stopped caring about when it will come out, I've had a much more peaceful time waiting for it lol.

[mjw930]

you guys sure like talking out of both sides of your mouth, don't you. First you call my post miss information them proceed to validate my observation by talking about how difficult it is to PROPERLY design a spring that will work effectively with MRC.

GM doesn't take the time to generate different calibrations for each and every one of their vehicles they offer MRC on because they have money to waste. They do it because when you change variables in the suspension, including the unsprung weight of the wheels and tires, the algorithm for the shocks changes. Hell, they have 4 unique calibrations just for the C7 application, base, Z51, Z06 and Z07 (which has been through two major updates to accommodate rough tracks).

It's not so much the change in ride height that's a problem, All C7's have the ability to adjust the ride height by about 40mm and the engineers on Team Corvette have confirmed it has no measurable effect on the MRC calibrations. It's getting the spring rates correct to emulate the stock rates and prevent coil bind and bottoming out.

[Richard0nee]

Originally Posted by MIAMI2SSRS

Thanks for the info. Will this be a set for the MRC equipped cars or a set for non-MRC equipped cars? Do you know by any chance?

they mentioned for both non MRC and MRC but MRC may take longer. Heck GM doesn't even have springs for MRC lol


Eibach is highly reputable so I guess it's worth the wait if you want a quality brand.

At least one more month from them

[MIAMI2SSRS]

Originally Posted by Richard0nee

they mentioned for both non MRC and MRC but MRC may take longer. Heck GM doesn't even have springs for MRC lol


Eibach is highly reputable so I guess it's worth the wait if you want a quality brand.

At least one more month from them

Thank you, sir. I appreciate the information and I agree with you.

[doc212121]

Nailed it, I have been saying this since the car came out, everyone was telling me I was wrong and they will be avail soon, and that its no big deal...........just a bunch of misinformed members on how lowering adversely affects MRC.
Can it be lowered with standard springs....SURE! Should you? Your call but I wouldn't, their is a reason why many people wont do it, and their is a reason why the aftermarket and factory is hesitant to offer these. Knowing this ahead of time is the reason why I bought the car without MRC.

Originally Posted by mjw930

you guys sure like talking out of both sides of your mouth, don't you. First you call my post miss information them proceed to validate my observation by talking about how difficult it is to PROPERLY design a spring that will work effectively with MRC.

GM doesn't take the time to generate different calibrations for each and every one of their vehicles they offer MRC on because they have money to waste. They do it because when you change variables in the suspension, including the unsprung weight of the wheels and tires, the algorithm for the shocks changes. Hell, they have 4 unique calibrations just for the C7 application, base, Z51, Z06 and Z07 (which has been through two major updates to accommodate rough tracks).

It's not so much the change in ride height that's a problem, All C7's have the ability to adjust the ride height by about 40mm and the engineers on Team Corvette have confirmed it has no measurable effect on the MRC calibrations. It's getting the spring rates correct to emulate the stock rates and prevent coil bind and bottoming out.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by mjw930

you guys sure like talking out of both sides of your mouth, don't you. First you call my post miss information them proceed to validate my observation by talking about how difficult it is to PROPERLY design a spring that will work effectively with MRC.

GM doesn't take the time to generate different calibrations for each and every one of their vehicles they offer MRC on because they have money to waste. They do it because when you change variables in the suspension, including the unsprung weight of the wheels and tires, the algorithm for the shocks changes. Hell, they have 4 unique calibrations just for the C7 application, base, Z51, Z06 and Z07 (which has been through two major updates to accommodate rough tracks).

It's not so much the change in ride height that's a problem, All C7's have the ability to adjust the ride height by about 40mm and the engineers on Team Corvette have confirmed it has no measurable effect on the MRC calibrations. It's getting the spring rates correct to emulate the stock rates and prevent coil bind and bottoming out.

Originally Posted by doc212121

Nailed it, I have been saying this since the car came out, everyone was telling me I was wrong and they will be avail soon, and that its no big deal...........just a bunch of misinformed members on how lowering adversely affects MRC.
Can it be lowered with standard springs....SURE! Should you? Your call but I wouldn't, their is a reason why many people wont do it, and their is a reason why the aftermarket and factory is hesitant to offer these. Knowing this ahead of time is the reason why I bought the car without MRC.

Originally Posted by AbsolutHank

I wish people would stop spreading misinformation like this. Go check Camaro5 ZL1 forums, or CTS-V forums since 2009 for lowered cars with MRC. You cannot slam a MRC car, but a 1-1.5" drop is completely within the range of the shocks with no adverse effects.

Without a test rig like the OE's have...you cannot claim that with certainty.

Perhaps "no noticeable adverse effects" and/or "on the street"...

But the fact that there's nothing out yet from GM or the aftermarket speaks volumes (IMO) to the idea that this concept is more challenging that some would like to believe...

I've also had a lowered MRC car.....

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

But the fact that there's nothing out yet from GM or the aftermarket speaks volumes (IMO) to the idea that this concept is more challenging that some would like to believe...

Not really, considering there are barely two sets of lowering springs out for the regular suspension as it is...

There are countless guys who I track with who have MRC equipped cars that have been lowered. Those guys are super anal, and data log everything. One of them actually is an engineer for an OEM. Many on here don't fully understand how MRC works and gets it's parameters. There is a range where it is unaffected, once you go past that range, you need to do your homework. I am neither for, or against MRC, but making like it is an impossibility to lower it isn't the case. Yes, it isn't a simple as a standard set up, but it's not rocket science. A Corvette can go down almost 1.7" with MRC not be effected one bit. If I wanted to go lower then that, or have more adjustability, I wouldn't get the MRC, I would get the standard suspension and get aftermarket coilovers.

...and furthermore, there is no reason to get heated about this fellas. We are all Camaro guys in here.

[mjw930]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

Not really, considering there are barely two sets of lowering springs out for the regular suspension as it is...

There are countless guys who I track with who have MRC equipped cars that have been lowered. Those guys are super anal, and data log everything. One of them actually is an engineer for an OEM. Many on here don't fully understand how MRC works and gets it's parameters. There is a range where it is unaffected, once you go past that range, you need to do your homework. I am neither for, or against MRC, but making like it is an impossibility to lower it isn't the case. Yes, it isn't a simple as a standard set up, but it's not rocket science. A Corvette can go down almost 1.7" with MRC not be effected one bit. If I wanted to go lower then that, or have more adjustability, I wouldn't get the MRC, I would get the standard suspension and get aftermarket coilovers.

...and furthermore, there is no reason to get heated about this fellas. We are all Camaro guys in here.

I agree and I think we were just talking past each other. One of the negatives with MRC is how it can limit your options but done right it's a killer setup.