[SpeedIsLife]

You can't compare prices from 2010 to now without taking into account inflation.

However, over the entire lifespan of the 5th Gen..the only pricing changes that really happened were to accommodate inflation. From April 2009 (5th Gen deliveries roughly start) until 2015 (when the 2015 MY prices were announced)...I think the car only increased price something like $600 dollars (adjusted for inflation). Essentially the car was the same price it was from beginning to end, adjusted for inflation.

I suspect what may happen is what happened with the C7. The initial price was low enough to keep sticker shock away and keep true to the idea that if you could afford the Gen 5, you can afford the Gen 6. However, in order to meet the profits that "new GM" wants..they're going to creep the MSRP up to the point where by 2018 a 1SS will be right at, or just under, $40,000 to start.

[SpookShow'84]

Originally Posted by AdvanSuper

Oh so you're just here to laugh at everyone in a 2SS while they lap you?

By that math it took you 12+ years to pay off that thing...

I didn't buy it new, because I was broke and just out of school. Spent a couple grand and modded it as I went. Built it a piece at a time with money in my pocket and some elbow grease, not with a bank loan or at someone else's shop. It's as fast on the street as a gen5 ss, for WAY less money and it actually gets noticed at a car show or cruise night.

I'm here considering a 1SS b/c it has a warranty, a/c, and similar straight line performance (marginally better) to what I currently have.

A 1SS has enough performance that with the exception of a few talented grease monkeys is tough to be attained with another platform for equal money. Even new paying sticker, it is very close to the best performance for the money to be had at high $30's. Push it to high $40's, not so much. Just go get a used vette at that price point, same goodies with less weight.

If you have the scratch for a 2SS and think it's worth it to you, buy all means enjoy the car. I'm just pointing out the fact that the consumer in general is not taking the bait at the higher price point of the 2SS for the reasons I mentioned.

[Posaune]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

You can't compare prices from 2010 to now without taking into account inflation.

However, over the entire lifespan of the 5th Gen..the only pricing changes that really happened were to accommodate inflation. From April 2009 (5th Gen deliveries roughly start) until 2015 (when the 2015 MY prices were announced)...I think the car only increased price something like $600 dollars (adjusted for inflation). Essentially the car was the same price it was from beginning to end, adjusted for inflation.

I suspect what may happen is what happened with the C7. The initial price was low enough to keep sticker shock away and keep true to the idea that if you could afford the Gen 5, you can afford the Gen 6. However, in order to meet the profits that "new GM" wants..they're going to creep the MSRP up to the point where by 2018 a 1SS will be right at, or just under, $40,000 to start.

Using an inflation calculator, the 34K 2SS in 2010 (his number) would be $37.3K in 2016.

[BoostedX2]

Cost too high!!!

[aestil]

Originally Posted by Posaune

Using an inflation calculator, the 34K 2SS in 2010 (his number) would be $37.3K in 2016.

I wonder how close a gen 6 1SS is to overall content of a 2010 2SS?

I assume that the overall build quality/fit finish of the gen 6 1SS would be better than that of the 2010 2SS?

[SpookShow'84]

I think at $37.3k the 2SS would move much better.

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by Posaune

Using an inflation calculator, the 34K 2SS in 2010 (his number) would be $37.3K in 2016.

Right, and how much was the MSRP on the 2015 2SS? $38,300..so I was wrong, it increased in price roughly $1,000 over the 5th Gen's lifespan.

[Richard0nee]

Originally Posted by SpookShow'84

I didn't buy it new, because I was broke and just out of school. Spent a couple grand and modded it as I went. Built it a piece at a time with money in my pocket and some elbow grease, not with a bank loan or at someone else's shop. It's as fast on the street as a gen5 ss, for WAY less money and it actually gets noticed at a car show or cruise night.

I'm here considering a 1SS b/c it has a warranty, a/c, and similar straight line performance (marginally better) to what I currently have.

A 1SS has enough performance that with the exception of a few talented grease monkeys is tough to be attained with another platform for equal money. Even new paying sticker, it is very close to the best performance for the money to be had at high $30's. Push it to high $40's, not so much. Just go get a used vette at that price point, same goodies with less weight.

If you have the scratch for a 2SS and think it's worth it to you, buy all means enjoy the car. I'm just pointing out the fact that the consumer in general is not taking the bait at the higher price point of the 2SS for the reasons I mentioned.

I get what you're saying.. alot of folks want the whole premium package with the 2SS and that's fine.

I'm PERFECTLY happy with my 1SS, NPP, Rims and floormats lol

80% I bought the car was the performance aspect!
20% Is how menacing it looks especially driving!

I do like the leather seats from the 2SS but the cloth seats are very nice on the 1SS. But an extra 5k for the lighting, leather, other stuff? Not for me.. but I respect those that want it or need to have it.

[SpeedIsLife]

The advantage to the 1SS is you can always add the door lighting and leather seats (either OEM takeoffs or Katzkin) later for less than the price of a 2SS upgrade.

[SpookShow'84]

Exactly. What will my money get for me performance wise? That's how most people look at it. The Camaro enthusiast can beat the drum loud for a long time but at the end of the day it's competing with used cars and modders the whole time.

GM isn't sending my kids birthday cards, they don't care about me personally. They are here to make a profit. They can price things however they like. My post about the 2012 Mustang with a supercharger is real in the car market. If they want to get ridiculous with pricing people will just move to a product that they feel is worth their money.

[Marty McFlew]

Originally Posted by SpookShow'84

From a street guy view, here it is. Not from a GM fan prospective or a bench racer/magazine numbers guy.

Used 2012 Mustang Gt. = about $20K + $6k for a blower = car that runs high 10's in the 1/4 for on average about $15k less with better visibility, cheaper insurance, and none of the problems of a first year car. I like the gen6 a lot but have spent a majority of my time here after the honeymoon phase of the early buyers wears off. I'm trying to see what the car is as a whole, not just performance numbers. I for one will not touch a '16 maybe not a '17 depending on how much of the little things they can get fixed.

What percentage of guys auto x their car, any brand? I'd say less than 5% nation wide. Most people generally obey the speed limit so if it's fast from A-to-B and sounds tough that's all that most average people care about. At this point I've only saw two gen6 cars on the road since the roll out. People aren't that worried about running into one with a lesser car b/c they haven't sold enough of them for many guys to have their buts handed to them buy one. Why worry about a car that you won't see except for MAYBE on the track. Buying a low option 1SS, A8 will end up being over $40k with taxes for almost everyone unless it's is a smoking deal. Blue collar people have a hard time spending that much $ for a car that's nearly a two seater.

I agree. I like the 6th Gen a lot. I just think Chevy got too ambitious with pricing. I have never taken my car to a dragstrip and will never ever put it on a closed road course, sure handling is nice but I wont be buying one to be used as a race car. Just nice to have brute force every so often to step into for kicks, shut people up or coming off ramps.

[Posaune]

Originally Posted by aestil

I wonder how close a gen 6 1SS is to overall content of a 2010 2SS?

I assume that the overall build quality/fit finish of the gen 6 1SS would be better than that of the 2010 2SS?

Not completely sure. I think leather was standard on the 2010 2SS, leather isn't an option on the 2016 1SS.

[ThatRedFirebird]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Gotta love the folks that come in and over-inflate the price of the Camaro with items you can't even get on a base car, and even then its still too high, and then quote the price of the Mustang under MSRP.

I built a 1LT as close to your "spec" above, and it came out at 31. (Nav and NPP not available on the base 2.0 Camaro and auto trans is not 1,800) A base Mustang GT is over 33K (when you add in destination), and would have even less options on it than that Camaro.

Next time try actual facts.

I've seen folks on here saying they got a few thousand or more off the price of their Camaros without trying too hard. Yet everyone in this forum acts like dealerships aren't budging. Maybe you guys need to look around more or try harder.

I didn't pay MSRP for my car, and I ordered it before they were evening hitting lots last year.

Yeah...the price is high compared to the Mustang, no doubt. Maybe Chevy needs to actually advertise the car and explain why its worth it. I'm convinced most people have no clue the car is even new.

Sure, okay, the 2.0T is a little cheaper than what I said. But it's still ridiculous how quickly it creeps above 30k. I routinely see V6 Camaros (still 1LTs) for up to 30-35k. That is insane to me. My Dad test drove a 2LT for 42k back when the car launched. That dealer still has that car because... the market for a 42k V6 Camaro is tiny. Go ahead and knock 4k off of it, and then watch tax and interest put it all right back on anyways.

Sorry I got the 2.0T stuff wrong, I expected everything V6 to be available for 2.0T.

Around here they sell "enthusiast special" Stangs that are GT 5.0s, manual, in black, zero option for 28k. Makes sense that I see them everywhere (!). EcoBoosts are just as common, if not more so, because their sticker routinely comes out to below 30k.

And still kinda chuckling that even when you correct all my math, the Mustang GT and optioned out 2.0T are $2000 apart, which is almost in the noise especially considering 2017's $500 increase.

I love the Camaro (I do own one). But I can still see that they were probably too ambitious in jumping upmarket.

[SpeedIsLife]

Leather was standard on the Gen 5 2SS. After 2011 you got the HUD, ambient lighting, Boston Acoustics stereo, heated seats and such on the 2SS. HID's were part of the RS package.

On the 2016 1SS you're getting the HUD and RS package as standard.