[aestil]

Originally Posted by SpookShow'84

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Do what you want with your money. All I'm saying is that a whole lot of money evaporates into thin air when you buy a 1SS instead of a used econobox. To me that performance isn't worth the increased fuel costs, insurance costs, maintenance costs, and increased depreciation.

[AdvanSuper]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

I'm convinced most people have no clue the car is even new.

They don't... My friend calls it a 5.5 Gen, 5.25, 5.three and a half just to **** with me... I'm like ITS A NEW PLATFORM A NEW ENGINE THIS IS A 6TH GEN NOT A DAMN 5.5! M4 DESTROYER.

[Posaune]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Look, they designed the car based on the real fans on this and maybe a few other websites. A lot of discussion on this, but most of the folks on this sight are thinking V8 and performance. And if you are looking for a great performance car and you've been secretly harbor ing a desire for a Camaro that finally runs with a base Corvette, well GM delivers that car and then some.

But if you are looking for a Sport Coule with an I4 or V6 AND you don't come me to Camaro5 or 6 everyday then your judgement criteria is a bit different. For that customer GM has clearly missed the target a bit.

I would say a sport coupe with a I4, V6 or V8. The problem is that fans like us are a small percentage of potential Camaro customers. With the laser focus on what a lot of Chevy enthusiasts want, GM has alienated many potential customers...even some of us that are on here or other sites talking Camaro all the time.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by AdvanSuper

They don't... My friend calls it a 5.5 Gen, 5.25, 5.three and a half just to **** with me... I'm like ITS A NEW PLATFORM A NEW ENGINE THIS IS A 6TH GEN NOT A DAMN 5.5! M4 DESTROYER.

By every definition accepted in the industry, this is a NG car. Period.

[SpookShow'84]

Originally Posted by aestil

Do what you want with your money. All I'm saying is that a whole lot of money evaporates into thin air when you buy a 1SS instead of a used econobox. To me that performance isn't worth the increased fuel costs, insurance costs, maintenance costs, and increased depreciation.

Hence my paid off for almost twenty years performance car, and my cheap econobox.

[SS 1LE]

GM can't be expecting big sales numbers with zero advertising and zero incentives. Maybe the profit margin is better than we think...

[Thor142]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

GM can't be expecting big sales numbers with zero advertising and zero incentives. Maybe the profit margin is better than we think...

....and maybe they are actually building the niche market performance car we all asked for last gen....Their sales could be exactly on target

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by Posaune

I would say a sport coupe with a I4, V6 or V8. The problem is that fans like us are a small percentage of potential Camaro customers. With the laser focus on what a lot of Chevy enthusiasts want, GM has alienated many potential customers...even some of us that are on here or other sites talking Camaro all the time.

I agree with your point completely. There is just a segment that would by a crappy looking Camaro simply because A) it beats the Mustang easily and/or B) it sticks it to the Corvette owners by being its near equal.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by SS 1LE

GM can't be expecting big sales numbers with zero advertising and zero incentives. Maybe the profit margin is better than we think...

GM has had months of free advertising to its intended customers. Magazine reviews do this for them and good ones do that even better.

Also, how many Corvette ads do you see? How many 5th gen ads did you ever see?

Don't equate poor sales to GM doing what it has done for a very long time regarding Camaro and Corvette.

[Marty McFlew]

Originally Posted by G6SS

Don't see why there's such a competition of who sold more. At the end of the day I have the faster, better performing, more techy car. Congrats to mustang but I honestly see 20+ a day and when I had my 16 I was just a number. I can't say anything about looks because it's subjective but I'll tell you I have gotten way more looks at my camaro in the 2 weeks of ownership than my 16 5.0 ever got

The more the sales, the more the support, the more performance products.

[Posaune]

Originally Posted by Thor142

....and maybe they are actually building the niche market performance car we all asked for last gen....Their sales could be exactly on target

The production predictions for LGR tell a different story.

[AdvanSuper]

Originally Posted by SpookShow'84

Hence my paid off for almost twenty years performance car, and my cheap econobox.

Oh so you're just here to laugh at everyone in a 2SS while they lap you?

By that math it took you 12+ years to pay off that thing...

[Thor142]

Originally Posted by Number 3

GM has had months of free advertising to its intended customers. Magazine reviews do this for them and good ones do that even better.

Also, how many Corvette ads do you see? How many 5th gen ads did you ever see?

Don't equate poor sales to GM doing what it has done for a very long time regarding Camaro and Corvette.

Well there were these huge commercials for the 5th gen that people paid to see and millions of people saw them. You may have heard of them. They were directed by Michael Bay.

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by Thor142

Well there were these huge commercials for the 5th gen that people paid to see and millions of people saw them. You may have heard of them. They were directed by Michael Bay.

That's product placement.

And I'm sure your smart A$$ tone wasn't intended. I know it's hard to type what you mean.

Don't confuse that with advertising via ads and commercials.