[JusticePete]

NA heritage went out the window with CAFE and emissions.

[Hypertrophy]

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

It sounds (and looks) to me like he locked up the rear tires just before everything went to hell in a handbasket. Norm

Back tires clearly lock up first, which then causes the tail to swing left. Then you see him correcting. For some unknown reason however the fronts lock up as well causing the under-steer. Because the back end had drifted left the car ends up pointing right when the fronts lock up and into the rail he goes. Obviously ABS wasn't active at the time. It's odd however for the rears to lock up before the fronts....most breaking pressure is on the front.

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

NA heritage went out the window with CAFE and emissions.

Which doesn't make it right, only an artificial solution "forced" by reasons (agendas?) that are irrelevant to driving on track.


Norm

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by Hypertrophy

Back tires clearly lock up first, which then causes the tail to swing left. Then you see him correcting. For some unknown reason however the fronts lock up as well causing the under-steer. Because the back end had drifted left the car ends up pointing right when the fronts lock up and into the rail he goes. Obviously ABS wasn't active at the time. It's odd however for the rears to lock up before the fronts....most breaking pressure is on the front.

When you're looking to balance wear rates between front and rear pads (and perhaps rotors), you'd throw extra braking effort rearward because for most peoples' normal braking the forward load transfer isn't nearly as great. Might only need 60% - 65% front to balance things for street driving instead the 75% or a bit more that would be better suited to repeatedly stopping at 1.2g on the track.


Norm

[JusticePete]

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

Which doesn't make it right, only an artificial solution "forced" by reasons (agendas?) that are irrelevant to driving on track.


Norm

Nice pun.

The LS7 was built for a number of years under a wavier. I am not sure the technology exists to get over 600 and pass emissions without FI.

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

When you're looking to balance wear rates between front and rear pads (and perhaps rotors), you'd throw extra braking effort rearward because for most peoples' normal braking the forward load transfer isn't nearly as great. Might only need 60% - 65% front to balance things for street driving instead the 75% or a bit more that would be better suited to repeatedly stopping at 1.2g on the track.


Norm

Looks to me like an ABS cal test, failure. I 'see' the driver hit the brakes and have an OH shxx moment when the car didn't do what he thought it would / should.

[carsismeZ06]

Originally Posted by JusticePete

NA heritage went out the window with CAFE and emissions.

This is more or less the case and folks are going to have to get used to it sooner or later.

Be prepared to pick up a 2014-2015 model if you really want a late-model naturally-aspirated Z/28.

[GrimReaperSS]

Also keep in mind, the initial development of the LT1 started in '07, there's been a lot if change since then, it's entirely possible things can have made great strides in the past 9 years. Who knows what we're gonna get. And I'm in the "there's no S/C whine" camp/poll. Not because I don't want it anyways, but simply don't hear it in any video.

[jessrayo]

Originally Posted by EE7

Kinda sounds like turbo spool to me...

Ding,ding,ding.... I think we have a winner. Sounds a lot like N/A unless you get the wastegates to open, which depending on how you are handling the boost, is possible coming off of hard throttle before a turn. Indy and F1 use turbos so why not a super bad a$$ Z/28? And if you think it is because Corvette doesn't have a turbo motor wait for the Zora, mid-engine model release.

Seems like someone said this would be a Z/28 possibility when the ZL1 was released and people were wondering what GM could do with a z/28 to make it better. I'm so stoked to be a Camaro guy right now. This new Z/28 really does look like a monster.

[DrkPhx]

^^^ Agreed. I've said for a while a small displacement V8 TT is a possibility with this car and the upcoming Zora which would be badass imo.

[ssrs2lt]

Wow that thing hit the rail hard

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by jessrayo

Ding,ding,ding.... I think we have a winner. Sounds a lot like N/A unless you get the wastegates to open, which depending on how you are handling the boost, is possible coming off of hard throttle before a turn. Indy and F1 use turbos so why not a super bad a$$ Z/28? And if you think it is because Corvette doesn't have a turbo motor wait for the Zora, mid-engine model release.

Seems like someone said this would be a Z/28 possibility when the ZL1 was released and people were wondering what GM could do with a z/28 to make it better. I'm so stoked to be a Camaro guy right now. This new Z/28 really does look like a monster.

Twin turbos don't fit in the Corvette, so that's out the window. It's the LT4. It has to be the LT4 because that's the only engine GM has to use.

[Sven59]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Twin turbos don't fit in the Corvette, so that's out the window. It's the LT4. It has to be the LT4 because that's the only engine GM has to use.

The new Corvette!

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Sven59

The new Corvette!

What new Corvette? The mythical mid engine Zora? Even if that is real, you think they are going to let Camaro have that engine first?

[Sven59]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

What new Corvette? The mythical mid engine Zora? Even if that is real, you think they are going to let Camaro have that engine first?

Just like they are letting the ZL1 have the A10 first. If they help each other in product development they will speed up release. They work on the motor in the Camaro and fine tune it for Zora.