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Old 05-11-2016, 04:09 PM   #337
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MJ, yeah, good call....I had your post in mind.

Most were comparing sounds on the track, but might not have noticed they were two different cars, so the s/c debate is still unresolved...lol..
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:16 PM   #338
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Let's look at this a different way for fun.

Is the Corvette Grand Sport a different model?


I am sure you can tell which way I am going with this... because if it is.. then the Z28 definitely is as well.
Only problem with the way your thinking is that Corvette (currently) does not have anything as track-oriented as a Z/28....stripped interior, nearly illegal tires, lightweight glass, low-level lights for weight, removed sound insulation...Z06/Z07 comes close...but it still features a cozy (heavy) interior.

The mention of the automatic/manual is interesting because it's got me thinking...if the 1LE was "too track focused" for an automatic option, or even 2SS...then what logic suggests a Z/28 should sport an automatic?

I'm starting to lean towards the idea that this might be a track package for the ZL1. All opinion, and I've been wrong before...
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:18 PM   #339
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This Z/28 WILL be N/A.
I agree, I see very valid points for saying it could have the lt4, but I don't see too much differentiation between the z28 and zl1 at that point, so I'm thinking it'll be n/a......how cool would it be if it came with a direct injected 7.0l.....the lt7 lol

I'm not sure if anyone mentioned that yet, 25 pages is a lot to check lol
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:19 PM   #340
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It was on track for less than 40 seconds. Half of that it was out of view. Only once was it at speed and under acceleration while driving towards the camera. Hence, why we only hear whine only once. You won't hear S/C whine over exhaust, so you will never hear it unless you are in front of the car.

You can try to dissect it until your blue in the face, but this car has a S/C! Sorry if that's not what you want, but its just a fact.



There you go.

Sure thing!!

I don't care if it's N/A or FI but the fact is you literally can't tell anything in the video but the exhaust note. In the ZL1 videos you can clearly hear the SC whine even over the exhaust when it's full throttle.

There are no facts here at all. Try to tell me that until you are blue in the face and you'll just pass out. We have no clue what is powering this Camaro.

Not to mention the exhaust tone is very different in this Camaro compared to the ZL1. Much deeper and harsher sounding.
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:21 PM   #341
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Supercharger whine = LT4. If Z06 wasn't sacred enough to keep N/A then it's unlikely that Z28 will be either. GM just doesn't have any other N/A performance V8's to use.
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:21 PM   #342
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I think the opening is the same but the grills are different.
There is more material in the camouflage grill and also something along the sides. More material, less airflow, maybe N/A?
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:27 PM   #343
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I'm starting to lean towards the idea that this might be a track package for the ZL1. All opinion, and I've been wrong before...
How about it's a Z/28 with an available automatic option?....It will be the exclusive aero, light weight, tires and brakes, etc., etc., that will make it a Z/28....More so than just a ZL-1 upgrade....???
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:27 PM   #344
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Supercharger whine = LT4. If Z06 wasn't sacred enough to keep N/A then it's unlikely that Z28 will be either. GM just doesn't have any other N/A performance V8's to use.
That's the rub though. Tadge outright admits that the Z06 was completely the wrong name for the Corvette to use. GM wanted to name the ZL1 Z/28 in the 5th gen but word got out and people knew it was the wrong thing to do. GM came up with ZL1 and created a new brand.
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:31 PM   #345
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That's the rub though. Tadge outright admits that the Z06 was completely the wrong name for the Corvette to use. GM wanted to name the ZL1 Z/28 in the 5th gen but word got out and people knew it was the wrong thing to do. GM came up with ZL1 and created a new brand.
ZL1 is based on the most powerful Camaro as in the 69 ZL1. It is not new.
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:32 PM   #346
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MJ, yeah, good call....I had your post in mind.

Most were comparing sounds on the track, but might not have noticed they were two different cars, so the s/c debate is still unresolved...lol..
Fair enough. We didn't hear both cars whine. You are correct.
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:32 PM   #347
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Supercharger whine = LT4. If Z06 wasn't sacred enough to keep N/A then it's unlikely that Z28 will be either. GM just doesn't have any other N/A performance V8's to use.
Different teams with different benchmarks and needs.

Development was happening on another N/A V8 for the C7Z, in the end they went with the LT4. Camaro team wouldn't have had to start from scratch for a more powerful N/A engine for the Z/28.
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ZL1 is based on the most powerful Camaro as in the 69 ZL1. It is not new.
No, not new but completely new as in FI from GM. Instead of using the Z/28 name they went back to the ZL1. It was the right choice to make and made a lot of fans happy in BOTH camps. If this is a FI car it will likely not have the Z/28 name.
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:40 PM   #349
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How about it's a Z/28 with an available automatic option?....It will be the exclusive aero, light weight, tires and brakes, etc., etc., that will make it a Z/28....More so than just a ZL-1 upgrade....???
The upgrades you listed are exactly what Z07 package includes, and that is just an options package.

If this car has the LT4 under the hood, there is no reason for it to be anything but an upgrade on the ZL1.
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Old 05-11-2016, 04:47 PM   #350
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I just listened to it and honestly it's disappointing. I know it can't sound like it has long tubes from the factory, once you get used to that sound this is laughable. I'm sure it'll sound incredible with the right plumbing.
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