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Old 03-25-2016, 09:03 AM   #1
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Clutch Fluid - Brake Fluid

Is the hydraulic clutch fluid and brake fluid shared on the 2017 Camaros? I thought there were some issues with this on the 5th gen cars and some aftermarket solutions.

Anyone have pictures of this that they could post?

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Old 03-29-2016, 03:33 PM   #2
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Old 03-29-2016, 03:57 PM   #3
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Is the hydraulic clutch fluid and brake fluid shared on the 2017 Camaros? I thought there were some issues with this on the 5th gen cars and some aftermarket solutions.

Anyone have pictures of this that they could post?

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There were issues on the 5th gen for sure in regards to this. If this is still an issue (may have been fixed?), I will do duals for sure. I like to do the turkey baster mod as well every six months or so to the clutch fluid...

I haven't heard of any clutch issues with the new car, but then again it's so new not many have tracked it yet.
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There were issues on the 5th gen for sure in regards to this. If this is still an issue (may have been fixed?), I will do duals for sure. I like to do the turkey baster mod as well every six months or so to the clutch fluid...

I haven't heard of any clutch issues with the new car, but then again it's so new not many have tracked it yet.
man if these cars had a remote bleeder on the slave cylinder from the factory i would be sooooooooo happy.
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Old 03-29-2016, 10:26 PM   #5
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Is the hydraulic clutch fluid and brake fluid shared on the 2017 Camaros? I thought there were some issues with this on the 5th gen cars and some aftermarket solutions.

Anyone have pictures of this that they could post?

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I've been wondering the same. I separated my clutch and brake reservoirs on my 2013 1LE, and have been watching the color of the fluid in the single reservoir on my 2016 SS. The 13's fluid changed color really quickly. So far at just over 5k, no color change on the 16.
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Old 03-30-2016, 08:05 AM   #6
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I've been wondering the same. I separated my clutch and brake reservoirs on my 2013 1LE, and have been watching the color of the fluid in the single reservoir on my 2016 SS. The 13's fluid changed color really quickly. So far at just over 5k, no color change on the 16.
That is good news. Have you done any redline 1-2, 2-3 quick shifts? How is the pedal feel? Any issues with the pedal sticking to the floor or anything like that? My fifth gen until I separated the fluids would do all sorts of crap...
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That is good news. Have you done any redline 1-2, 2-3 quick shifts? How is the pedal feel? Any issues with the pedal sticking to the floor or anything like that? My fifth gen until I separated the fluids would do all sorts of crap...
the difference in feel in the shifts you described between having rev-match on and off leads me to believe there is much less wear and heat in all those components with it on.
I will also go as far to say rev-match will substantially reduce syncro wear.

I think the 6gen has a totally difference clutch. And while the changes to your hydraulic system fixed your issues, generally the root cause for what you're describing is in the clutch/pressure plate, slave, or slave-pressure plate geometry.
dont get me wrong, if i could fix it with separating the fluids over dropping the trans, I would do the same.
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Old 03-30-2016, 09:07 AM   #8
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the difference in feel in the shifts you described between having rev-match on and off leads me to believe there is much less wear and heat in all those components with it on.
I will also go as far to say rev-match will substantially reduce syncro wear.

I think the 6gen has a totally difference clutch. And while the changes to your hydraulic system fixed your issues, generally the root cause for what you're describing is in the clutch/pressure plate, slave, or slave-pressure plate geometry.
dont get me wrong, if i could fix it with separating the fluids over dropping the trans, I would do the same.
Separating the fluids helped a lot, but even that didn't stop the issue until I added a stainless clutch line. Just one of the reasons I didn't like my 5th gen lol...
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Separating the fluids helped a lot, but even that didn't stop the issue until I added a stainless clutch line. Just one of the reasons I didn't like my 5th gen lol...
did you have to drop the trans to do that? or at least unbolt the bell housing?
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Old 03-30-2016, 11:45 AM   #10
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did you have to drop the trans to do that? or at least unbolt the bell housing?
God no, it's pretty easy actually...check this install link out. I followed this for the most part when I had my 5th gen.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165176
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Old 07-27-2016, 12:22 PM   #11
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I have been wondering about the clutch resevoir myself. With my 5th gens I did the separate reservoir mod.

My M6 SS has 5K and probably over 100 runs at Atco. So far all good on the fluid color. And has been said before 5th gens would not go this far without discolorization of the fluid. This winter I plan to service all the fluids anyway.

Edit: Having posted this I went out and looked at the fluid, just in case. Yup I better get out the turkey baster. Still more longevity in the 6th gen fluid.
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Old 08-18-2016, 01:01 PM   #12
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I think the 6gen has a totally difference clutch. And while the changes to your hydraulic system fixed your issues, generally the root cause for what you're describing is in the clutch/pressure plate, slave, or slave-pressure plate geometry.
dont get me wrong, if i could fix it with separating the fluids over dropping the trans, I would do the same.
We agree, the combined reservoir is not normally the origin of the dead pedal and other issues. Its actually nice to have the extra fluid of the combined reservoir because it takes longer for it to become dirty enough to cause issues. With a separate reservoir, you have much less fluid and makes it quicker to contaminate.
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Old 08-27-2016, 10:16 PM   #13
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There were issues on the 5th gen for sure in regards to this. If this is still an issue (may have been fixed?), I will do duals for sure. I like to do the turkey baster mod as well every six months or so to the clutch fluid...

I haven't heard of any clutch issues with the new car, but then again it's so new not many have tracked it yet.
Well it takes Longer for the color to change to gold/maroon, I have Pisces on our car, it was only 2 track days for the change to show.
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Old 09-29-2016, 06:12 PM   #14
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We agree, the combined reservoir is not normally the origin of the dead pedal and other issues. Its actually nice to have the extra fluid of the combined reservoir because it takes longer for it to become dirty enough to cause issues. With a separate reservoir, you have much less fluid and makes it quicker to contaminate.
The seperate reservoir was a big help on the 5th gens. Just turkey baste it every time you track and problem solved. And you keep the dirty fluid away from the brakes. It cured my "dead pedal" problems with the stock clutch.

At 6,500 miles my fluid is noticable dirty. So I swapped out some fluid. After maybe 50+ 1/4 runs. It doesn't look like there is much room for a seperate reservoir. Especially with the Mishimito catch can. I am not sure if the clutch was giving me a problem on two runs last week. I had trouble with second gear. But no clutch sticking to the floor kind of problems.
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