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Old 02-23-2016, 08:56 PM   #1
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Engine overheated!!

Well..... After owning my car 6 weeks and the dealer having it 4 of those 6 weeks trying to fix all the issues I've been having. I go out to my car during lunch. I start it up, let it warm up and turn the heater on.... Well...... ICE COLD air was the only thing coming out.. So I thought maybe I just need to drive around a little and really get the motor warmed up. I drive around for about 15 minutes and the air conditioning will not blow warm air. I drove back to work parked my car... Then I hear this humming noise. Look down and my car is running at about 220 degrees.. Definitely warmer than it should be and my engine fans were on the whole time (this was the humming noise I was hearing) trying to keep my motor cool. Turned car off, called dealer. Told them what was going on. We came to the conclusion that it hasn't gotten over 220 so it should be good to drive it to the dealer about 12 miles away. Hop back in the car about 45 minutes of it sitting, start driving to the dealer, get about 2 miles away from dealer and my temp start rising QUICKLY. Within 10 seconds it went from 220degrees to red line(260)...... Message popped up saying "engine overheating" I was in the process of pulling over and shut it off immediately. Call GM roadside assistance(SUCKED) dealer ended up having to call another wrecker to come pick me up. Was on the side of the road for an hour and a half!! Wrecker gets there and my car won't go into neutral without attempting to start it. Flatbed wrecker just hooks up from the front of my vehicle chains all the way to the back and drags the dang car on to the flatbed. And then when we get to the dealer he just shakes my car off the flatbed... It was not pretty! It was too dark to see if there was any damage but at this point, I have buyers remorse! I can't even enjoy this car and it doesn't seem to be getting any better. My dealer has been nothing but helpful but GM has been nothing but CRAP! I am worried that this wrecker probably damage the transmission by dragging the car the way he did.(any body have this happen before?) Will update when dealer figures out what is wrong but I really hope there was no motor damage or warped heads.. Please make this nightmare stop!!!
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Old 02-23-2016, 09:01 PM   #2
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First let me say I'm sorry for the problems your having.

Now I have to say no f**ckin way I would have let the tow truck driver drag my car on the wrecker.
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Old 02-23-2016, 09:04 PM   #3
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Agreed, i once saw a wrecker spray the pavement and his rig with wd40 on the wheels so he could drag the car on....not pretty....
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Old 02-23-2016, 09:09 PM   #4
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Sounds like you're not getting any coolant flowing. Could be a thermostat, pump, or both...

Crappy experience, I'm sorry to read it. Good news is - this is (hopefully) an easy fix.

I don't know if you knew this...but there is an accessory mode, and a "service mode" with the push-button ignition. Without pressing the brake pedal, push the button once to enter Accessory mode. Without pressing the brake pedal, push and hold the button for more than 5 seconds. One of those two modes would have allowed you to shift into neutral.

Let us know what the issue is. Good luck!
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Old 02-23-2016, 10:31 PM   #5
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Sounds like you're not getting any coolant flowing. Could be a thermostat, pump, or both...

Crappy experience, I'm sorry to read it. Good news is - this is (hopefully) an easy fix.

I don't know if you knew this...but there is an accessory mode, and a "service mode" with the push-button ignition. Without pressing the brake pedal, push the button once to enter Accessory mode. Without pressing the brake pedal, push and hold the button for more than 5 seconds. One of those two modes would have allowed you to shift into neutral.

Let us know what the issue is. Good luck!
Thermostat was my first guess too. Especially with temp running so hot. I wonder if there is any motor damage with it literally reaching the red line.? Also, I tried accessory mode and it wouldn't let me shift it at all. I didn't try to hold it down for 5 seconds though. So maybe I needed to get into that second mode to do it? Also, does anybody know if he drug it about a car length and had to "shake it off the truck" if it could damage the transmission or car in general. I'm not even sure what he hooked the chains to either. I just know it was hooked to the back somewhere underneath. I'm sure my front bumper has to have been damaged in some way pulling it that way.. Just has not been the best of experiences.
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Old 02-24-2016, 06:09 AM   #6
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I feel sorry for your problems op. That's ridiculous! I personally know a lot of tow truck drivers and they would never drag cars unless they were pulling them out of a ditch. Shouldn't someone be on the hook for the inevitable damages?
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Old 02-24-2016, 06:40 AM   #7
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I can offer no assistance other than to say I am sorry for what you are going through. I will hope for a good outcome.
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Old 02-24-2016, 07:25 AM   #8
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You may be OK from a short drag but man, I never would have let them do that to my car. You should have taken video of that! I guess the only consolation is that GM should be liable if there's any damage. Good luck with the repair. Hopefully it'll be a quick fix and no damage from the towing.

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Old 02-24-2016, 08:26 AM   #9
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Thermostat was my first guess too. Especially with temp running so hot. I wonder if there is any motor damage with it literally reaching the red line.? Also, I tried accessory mode and it wouldn't let me shift it at all. I didn't try to hold it down for 5 seconds though. So maybe I needed to get into that second mode to do it? Also, does anybody know if he drug it about a car length and had to "shake it off the truck" if it could damage the transmission or car in general. I'm not even sure what he hooked the chains to either. I just know it was hooked to the back somewhere underneath. I'm sure my front bumper has to have been damaged in some way pulling it that way.. Just has not been the best of experiences.
The temp running hot, and yet no heat coming from the HVAC system...also - the engine should not increase in temperature that quickly unless there was no fluid circulation.

I think you're probably fine in terms of damage from heat. They can take quite a lot, and likely the oil wasn't quite that hot, yet (much more thermal capacity in oil, than water).

But as far as dragging it. Yikes....The service mode is supposed to allow the vehicle to operate as though it is "on/run", just without the engine running. That probably would have allowed you to shift into neutral.

On a similar note - manual transmission cars that have a dead batter and need to be towed, etc...will not be able to release the parking brake, and therefore will probably need to be dragged up onto a flatbed, help....
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Old 02-24-2016, 10:20 AM   #10
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The temp running hot, and yet no heat coming from the HVAC system...also - the engine should not increase in temperature that quickly unless there was no fluid circulation.

I think you're probably fine in terms of damage from heat. They can take quite a lot, and likely the oil wasn't quite that hot, yet (much more thermal capacity in oil, than water).

But as far as dragging it. Yikes....The service mode is supposed to allow the vehicle to operate as though it is "on/run", just without the engine running. That probably would have allowed you to shift into neutral.

On a similar note - manual transmission cars that have a dead batter and need to be towed, etc...will not be able to release the parking brake, and therefore will probably need to be dragged up onto a flatbed, help....
Just jump the battery first to release the parking brake. Every tow truck driver has jump boxes now a days. I do not own the automatic but I thought every car has a cap by the shifter that you pop and release the shifter if the battery is dead and you need to tow.
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Old 02-24-2016, 10:45 AM   #11
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Just jump the battery first to release the parking brake.
That's a good point!
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Old 02-24-2016, 10:53 AM   #12
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We had a major engine failure with our 15SS last July. The tow truck operator was fantastic. He made sure and took his time to load that car and I tipped him well for the efforts. Sorry to hear about your issues.
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Old 02-24-2016, 02:45 PM   #13
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Keep in mind that if they do drag the car up on the bed, they normally drag it rear first and the angle of the winch line helps pull some weight off the rear wheels (so it's not being dragged with the full weight on the rears). Chances are, the drag didn't cause any damage... unless it was hooked up wrong.

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Old 02-24-2016, 03:53 PM   #14
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Keep in mind that if they do drag the car up on the bed, they normally drag it rear first and the angle of the winch line helps pull some weight off the rear wheels (so it's not being dragged with the full weight on the rears). Chances are, the drag didn't cause any damage... unless it was hooked up wrong.

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It was dragged from the front..(Actually, he ran the chains from under the front bumper all the way to read of the car and hooked it up somewhere in the rear.. And pulled it on front end first.).. It was not good. I was in the tow truck when he was hooking it up but I could hear everything.
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