[chris227]

Originally Posted by Techn9cian805

I hope not. The transformers franchise is out of gas, no sense in trying to do the same crap all over again on a dying franchise. If the gen 6 is to come out in a movie, its gotta be something fresh

Transformers 4 = 1.104 billion USD..... Not what i would call dying.

[kcpoloman]

I bet they get in on the next fast and furious.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

So 3 Mustang commercials and Dodge has 3 or more too. So Ford has no problem selling theirs. Dodge maintains the same sales. Lesson to be learned, TV adds don't sell these cars. Transformers movie may and would be a better investment more than likely.

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If a children's cartoon movie was the only basis I had to buy a Camaro, I would have never purchased one.

[Denis]

Originally Posted by RenegadeXR

That's the beauty of the Transformers franchise. The autobots can just so happen to scan and become any vehicle by the highest bidder, and presto, Bumblebee is a totally different make and model. They don't even have to show a Camaro on screen if they didn't want to. For all we know, this time around it will be a Tesla Model X.

Personally, I think the 6th gen is very sorely lacking a poster child car like Bumblebee was for the 5th gen, as much as we may have hated it. I'm not sure if Transformers is the way to go this time around, but they need something.

right? Its almost like Michael Bay is in business to make money.

[Techn9cian805]

Originally Posted by chris227

Transformers 4 = 1.104 billion USD..... Not what i would call dying.

That's worldwide sales, bro. The Camaro is not a worldwide car. here's a quote from the same wiki page regarding the film's American income: "The film closed down its theatrical run on October 9, 2014 and earned a total of $245,439,076, making it the fifth highest-grossing film of 2014 but the lowest-grossing in the Transformers film series."

So yes, I would call it a dying series, especially since Transformers 4 proved to be a very shitty cash-out film.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by RenegadeXR

Personally, I think the 6th gen is very sorely lacking a poster child car like Bumblebee was for the 5th gen, as much as we may have hated it. I'm not sure if Transformers is the way to go this time around, but they need something.

I hope they go a different route as well. IMO The constant barrage of Bumblebee in the Transformers movie, along with coming out before the car was even out IMO to my eyes it what made the design get old fast. I saw it literally everywhere I went.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by RenegadeXR

Like with any ad, it at least increases buyer awareness. Unless you were to walk into a show room, the average buyer would have no idea that the 2016 Camaro even exists. Ford at least had a marketing campaign, plus a spot in the Need for Speed movie.

GM is really dropping the ball on the advertising front. Even during the Find New Roads tour, the event was very poorly publicized and only about 30 people showed up when they stopped in Raleigh. They seemed prepared for a much bigger crowd strangely enough.

I'm pretty sure most Mustang buyers are aware there's a new one, TV spots really don't help high visibility cars like it. Word of mouth and actually seeing one are probably the biggest reasons people check them out. I know quite a few Mustang owners didn't know there was a new gen until they saw at the dealer when they went in for service. It's the same thing with the Camaro. How many threads start off with, "So I was at the dealer getting some work done and saw a '16"? I just think there's better ways to spend money on Camaro advertising, like YouTube, media reviews, and movie spots.

As far as the FNR, I agree. I think the weather, location, and timing probably wasn't the best for Raleigh either. I know I had to take off work to go, but a weekend would have had much better turnout.

Oh and the NFS movie had the 5th gen Mustang. There was a movie with Ethan Hawk driving a 5th gen Mustang too.

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

3rd place and gaining fast. The Challenger isn't that far behind the Camaro in sales. Just wait until they get the next generation out.

True and we've seen it pass the 5th gen last fall after news of the 6th went public, but there is no reason to believe they are going to continue to climb. And based on FCA's recent business announcements and delays with the Giulia with US standards, not much hope of a new platform til 2018 or later.

Originally Posted by motorhead

If a children's cartoon movie was the only basis I had to buy a Camaro, I would have never purchased one.

Oh I completely agree. I think buying a car for any reason other than performance/value/features is a bad one. But then again we aren't most people. And if Camaro sales depended on us, the car wouldn't exist. So GM needs to court people who would buy a car just because it's in a favorite movie.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by Techn9cian805

That's worldwide sales, bro. The Camaro is not a worldwide car. here's a quote from the same wiki page regarding the film's American income: "The film closed down its theatrical run on October 9, 2014 and earned a total of $245,439,076, making it the fifth highest-grossing film of 2014 but the lowest-grossing in the Transformers film series."

So yes, I would call it a dying series, especially since Transformers 4 proved to be a very shitty cash-out film.

#2 for US, 5th for world for 2014. Not seeing how that proves anything other than people will still pay to watch Transformers before other movies. To me seems using the movies for advertising is still a sure bet.

[RenegadeXR]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

Oh and the NFS movie had the 5th gen Mustang. There was a movie with Ethan Hawk driving a 5th gen Mustang too.

The whole movie was really one big ad for the Ford Mustang. The entire plot was centric to the late Carroll Shelby and how the main character car was supposed to be the last great hurrah for his nameplate. Then, at the end of the movie, they have a nice close-up sequence with a preproduction 2015 Mustang. Although it wasn't the car that got the most screen time, it still very loudly said to audiences, "Hey, I'm the new model. I'm here, but you can't have me yet." Basically, very similar to how the Camaro in Transformers was a teaser too.

Chevy just needs to do something other than word of mouth. Press coverage is good, but it's not enough. Car enthusiasts are the most likely to be browsing sites that would have relevant articles, but how are they reaching out to more casual audiences? They aren't really, at all. I'm hoping like with Ford, they do a media blitz for their 50th anniversary.

[Techn9cian805]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

#2 for US, 5th for world for 2014. Not seeing how that proves anything other than people will still pay to watch Transformers before other movies. To me seems using the movies for advertising is still a sure bet.

well, time will tell. I hope the new Camaro sells well, but I'm not going to hold my breath hoping. Advertisements and cheesy product placement don't always translate to sales. this generation's competition is hot

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by RenegadeXR

The whole movie was really one big ad for the Ford Mustang. The entire plot was centric to the late Carroll Shelby and how the main character car was supposed to be the last great hurrah for his nameplate. Then, at the end of the movie, they have a nice close-up sequence with a preproduction 2015 Mustang. Although it wasn't the car that got the most screen time, it still very loudly said to audiences, "Hey, I'm the new model. I'm here, but you can't have me yet." Basically, very similar to how the Camaro in Transformers was a teaser too.

Chevy just needs to do something other than word of mouth. Press coverage is good, but it's not enough. Car enthusiasts are the most likely to be browsing sites that would have relevant articles, but how are they reaching out to more casual audiences? They aren't really, at all. I'm hoping like with Ford, they do a media blitz for their 50th anniversary.

I totally forgot that part you are right.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by Techn9cian805

well, time will tell. I hope the new Camaro sells well, but I'm not going to hold my breath hoping. Advertisements and cheesy product placement don't always translate to sales. this generation's competition is hot

Completely agree.

[HumanWiki]

Originally Posted by motorhead

If a children's cartoon movie was the only basis I had to buy a Camaro, I would have never purchased one.

and if they really wanted to stay true to their roots, they'd hit up Volkswagen for the next Bumblebee.

Besides, the 1st movie BB wasn't even a Camaro rolling chassis.

Anyways, they're clusterfarking the crap out of the franchise worse than AKOM did with Season 3 of the original cartoon series.. Don't even get me started on Season 4 with their "let's introduce a new character even 5 seconds for no reason other than to sell toys" routine.

Which, to be honest, was the point of the show.. It was a marketing vessel to sell sh*t to kids.. Not surprised one bit that the live actions are targeted in the same way to the grown kids that remember the cartoon.

[chris227]

Originally Posted by Techn9cian805

That's worldwide sales, bro. The Camaro is not a worldwide car. here's a quote from the same wiki page regarding the film's American income: "The film closed down its theatrical run on October 9, 2014 and earned a total of $245,439,076, making it the fifth highest-grossing film of 2014 but the lowest-grossing in the Transformers film series."

So yes, I would call it a dying series, especially since Transformers 4 proved to be a very shitty cash-out film.

Still made over a billion worldwide! The US is not the holy grail of markets. The movie made a billion!!!! Regardless of where it made it. Just cause you didn't like it or lived up to expectations doesn't mean it's dying. Profit is profit. What does camaro have anything to do with me stating how much a movie series that you say is dying! did? Camaro sales in the 90s is a series that was dying. This movie series not so much. My post had nothing to do with camaro sales. Just a response to your Hollywood financial knowledge.