[GMapologists]

Originally Posted by Number 3

The only issue is when you start saying a $50,000 Camaro is a good value. Compared to what?

Great point. For $50k, I can, and will, buy a brand new 2016 Corvette or 2016 AMG C450 sedan. But, for $36k or less, a Camaro 1SS is a great rear wheel drive toy with a stickshift.

Originally Posted by BRMike

The standard tire on the GT is an all season.

All season tires on a square set of 18" wheels should be the base wheel and tire for the Camaro SS, with summer tires as a no-cost option, or vice-versa.
20" wheels with summer tires should be optional, and the deletion of the the standard 20" wheel and tires should lower the base 1SS MSRP by $1k-$2k.
Considering most of the population has to deal with cold temperatures, and F@rd does this, this should be a no brainer on GM's part.

[laborsmith]

My understanding is a non-optioned Stingray 1LT starts as $54,995 which may be a bit more than $50,000 but what's a few thousand when comparing vehicles?

Laborsmith

[Tr6]

Originally Posted by laborsmith

My understanding is a non-optioned Stingray 1LT starts as $54,9995 which may be a bit more than $50,000 but what's a few thousand when comparing vehicles?

Laborsmith

BASE BASE Stringray is now $56,395 for coupe and $60,393 for convertible now. And I'd say barely will people buy that BASE. You'd want to get SOME stuff... My personal built one ends up being 70k lol (2LT, PDR, MRC, 500 for color and 500 for wheels. So not even 3LT with goodies), So my 2SS being 46k with mrc, with extra interior/exterior color, extra wheels (not to mention more goodies than a fully loaded 3LT c7/c7zo6 (minus PDR) = WIN.

[laborsmith]

Did not notice the price typo, but fixed it/ A half million dollar Corvette has to be at least half a century to go.

I clearly have not priced Corvettes recently!

Laborsmith

[Tr6]

Originally Posted by laborsmith

Did not notice the price typo, but fixed it/ A half million dollar Corvette has to be at least half a century to go.

I clearly have not priced Corvettes recently!

Laborsmith

Haha, I didn't meant to sound like a d-bag. I apologize if I did! I get bored... A LOT and may or may not price c7s (stringray and z06-7s), silverados and, random GM cars/suvs/trucks allllll the time!

[GMapologists]

Originally Posted by laborsmith

My understanding is a non-optioned Stingray 1LT starts as $54,995 which may be a bit more than $50,000 but what's a few thousand when comparing vehicles?

Laborsmith

I was obviously referring to what they are selling for in the real world. After buying multiple new Corvettes over the last 3 decades, I think I have an idea.

[laborsmith]

I have trouble with obvious, especially when discussing vehicle pricing. MSRP is as close to obvious as I can get and real world pricing is so subjective that no matter how many vehicles a person has bought there is no way to compare, unless, of course, none of the transactions included a trade in and none were Program Pricing.

Tr6, your post was constructive and it was me who noticed my C7 price was a little bit inaccurate.

Laborsmith

[daytonagary]

Originally Posted by laborsmith

My understanding is a non-optioned Stingray 1LT starts as $54,995 which may be a bit more than $50,000 but what's a few thousand when comparing vehicles?

Laborsmith

but in real world pricing after discounts a 1LT can be bought for $50,000. Got 8% off MSRP on my C7 purchase with just a courtesy discount from dealer. No GM incentives or rebates of any kind. With employee, supplier, non GM owner, military and etc. etc. that many are eligible for it would be even less.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by daytonagary

but in real world pricing after discounts a 1LT can be bought for $50,000. Got 8% off MSRP on my C7 purchase with just a courtesy discount from dealer. No GM incentives or rebates of any kind. With employee, supplier, non GM owner, military and etc. etc. that many are eligible for it would be even less.

In time similar discounts will be available on the Camaro. Saying a load Camaro is expensive at full MSRP compared to a base, no option C7 at 8% discount is silly.

[1968ss350]

Originally Posted by fastball

Those of you who know me from a few other threads know I won't pay near MSRP or even invoice. I'm waiting for the negotiation room to loosen up.

My price point is $40k out the door for a 2SS 6 speed with a moonroof. That's including tax, title, all dealer/doc fees, and 30 day temp tag. Out. The. Door.

Flame away if you think I'm crazy but you know damn well for a car that stickers at $43,200 there's easily $5k in dealer profit margin built in. If the Camaros are still "flying off the shelves" and dealers can let me walk for another customer who will pay more just waiting in line behind me, it's their business. Let me walk and I will.

I love the car but I will also negotiate hard and take my time to save money.

Wow you're a real mooch. You'll probably get that deal when big rebates come out

[1968ss350]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

In time similar discounts will be available on the Camaro. Saying a load Camaro is expensive at full MSRP compared to a base, no option C7 at 8% discount is silly.

I'm GM employee and got 8% off my 16

[GMapologists]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

In time similar discounts will be available on the Camaro. Saying a load Camaro is expensive at full MSRP compared to a base, no option C7 at 8% discount is silly.

The point that SHOULD be taken from the comparison that I started in this thread is that the Camaro is NOT a strong option at the $50k price point, but it's compelling at under $37k with a stickshift.

An additional point to be made is that if anyone can walk in and buy a $56,400 Corvette for $50k with no "special programs or discounts", what do think you should be paying for a $37,000 Camaro 1SS ??????

[fastball]

Originally Posted by 1968ss350

Wow you're a real mooch. You'll probably get that deal when big rebates come out

Call me whatever you want. I obviously value my money more than most people on here.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by GMapologists

The point that SHOULD be taken from the comparison that I started in this thread is that the Camaro is NOT a strong option at the $50k price point, but it's compelling at under $37k with a stickshift.

An additional point to be made is that if you can buy a $56,400 Corvette for $50k with no "special programs or discounts", what do think you should be paying for a $37,000 Camaro 1SS ??????

The point that SOULD have been taken from my post is that the purchase price of $50k MSRP 2SS NPP A8 mag ride with all the LPO's will similarly be coming down.

I view the new 2SS as being a tick off the gen5 ZL1 for a lot less money. That gorgeous interior, mag ride, HUD, low 12 sec speed, etc. Prices will soften.