[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by 63falcondude

I could be mistaken here but I don't believe that there are any engines built only for use with synthetics. If you have any source that says otherwise please share it. Keep in mind that I am no auto mechanic (by trade).

Ask yourself when was the last time you saw a high performance engine that did not have full synthetic factory fill. Why does the owner's manual say only synthetic. I'd suggest a little reading on synthetic vs conventional oil if you aren't familiar with the subject.

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[drivingagain]

I have to agree with Supersound. I have also done the MOTOMAN break in on motorcycles. I do not feel it is a necessary break in on these cars though. I am doing my first oil change this weekend be between 500-550 miles. I am going to use mobile 1 full synthetic because it meets the dexos 2 and not quit as good as the amsoil I normally run. Then at 1500 miles switch to amsoil. I keep my car normally under 4k rpm and once a day bring through the gears but not over 5.5k yet. At 1500 I will see what that feels like. Remember we are not breaking in race engines. These are performance engines designed to run over 100k miles. Race engines see 200 hours of operation or about 4-7k miles before they are rebuilt. Just my two cents and what I am doing.

[63falcondude]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

Ask yourself when was the last time you saw a high performance engine that did not have full synthetic factory fill. Why does the owner's manual say only synthetic. I'd suggest a little reading on synthetic vs conventional oil if you aren't familiar with the subject.

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I understand the differences between the two. Does the owners manual say only synthetic?

[63falcondude]

Originally Posted by drivingagain

I have to agree with Supersound. I have also done the MOTOMAN break in on motorcycles. I do not feel it is a necessary break in on these cars though. I am doing my firt oil change this weekend be between 500-550 miles. I am going to use mobile 1 full synthetic because it meets the dexos 2 and not quit as good as the amsoil I normally run. Then at 1500 miles switch to amsoil. I keep my car normally under 4k rpm and once a day bring through the gears but not over 5.5k yet. At 1500 I will see what that feels like. Remember we are not breaking in race engines. These are performance engines designed to run over 100k miles. Race engines see 200 hours of operation or about 4-7k miles before they are rebuilt. Just my two cents and what I am doing.

Yea I agree, I was just questioning the statement that there exists a mass produced engine that is only supposed to run on synthetic. By "supposed to" I mean manufacturer recc.

[drivingagain]

Yes chevrolet specs only to use dexos 2 approved oil. This is at minimum semi synthetic. My motorcycles spec castrol full synthetic 10w50. Anything BMW, AUDI, Mercedes requires to use full synthetic. Go see how much an oil change is for a BMW lol. This is also why I chan ge my own oil early. My 2010 BMW 535I they wanted 120 for an oil change.

[63falcondude]

Originally Posted by drivingagain

Yes chevrolet specs only to use dexos 2 approved oil. This is at minimum semi synthetic. My motorcycles spec castrol full synthetic 10w50. Anything BMW, AUDI, Mercedes requires to use full synthetic. Go see how much an oil change is for a BMW lol. This is also why I chan ge my own oil early. My 2010 BMW 535I they wanted 120 for an oil change.

Aah, didn't know that. Is there no dexos 2 approved conventional oil? Also, does it say "recommended" or "requires"? I looked it up and found that it is a GM brand. Reminds me of Yamaha recommending "Yamalube" while anything JASO certified will work fine. It's amazing what stealerships charge. One of the reasons why I do all of the work myself.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by drivingagain

Yes chevrolet specs only to use dexos 2 approved oil. This is at minimum semi synthetic. My motorcycles spec castrol full synthetic 10w50. Anything BMW, AUDI, Mercedes requires to use full synthetic. Go see how much an oil change is for a BMW lol. This is also why I chan ge my own oil early. My 2010 BMW 535I they wanted 120 for an oil change.

Yep VW and most of the other German manufacturers require it too. As emissions/MPG requirements get tougher, more engines will be built for synthetic only since the tolerances have to be tighter and Dino oil will not cut it.

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[drivingagain]

Originally Posted by 63falcondude

Aah, didn't know that. Is there no dexos 2 approved conventional oil? Also, does it say "recommended" or "requires"? I looked it up and found that it is a GM brand. Reminds me of Yamaha recommending "Yamalube" while anything JASO certified will work fine. It's amazing what stealerships charge. One of the reasons why I do all of the work myself.

Dexos 2 is just a performance grade that Chevrolet has set as their bench mark for oil quality. Actually Mobile 1 I believe makes the ac delco oil for gm but it is semi synthetic and mobil 1 is a full synthetic. Any oil manufacturer can design their oil and send it off to be tested to meet Dexos 2 qualifications though. The amsoil I will be running is Dexos 2 certified.

[63falcondude]

Originally Posted by drivingagain

Dexos 2 is just a performance grade that Chevrolet has set as their bench mark for oil quality. Actually Mobile 1 I believe makes the ac delco oil for gm but it is semi synthetic and mobil 1 is a full synthetic. Any oil manufacturer can design their oil and send it off to be tested to meet Dexos 2 qualifications though. The amsoil I will be running is Dexos 2 certified.

Cool, thanks for the info.

[Camaro1LTBA]

I usually just read the manual and do whatever that says. Think I went at least 9 months or so until the light came on to change the oil for the first time. If I remember correctly on the 2014, the main thing I had to get used to in the beginning was to not use the cruise control and make sure I was varying the speeds and RPMs. Think that was it. Will read the manual when the car arrives from the dealership.

[Camaro Mark III]

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer70

I have read what seems to be 1,000 posts around breaking in a V8 properly and making sure your car is running right from the get-go. Now, this is not my first V8, but my first already had 45K miles on it so I missed the boat. But this will be the highest performance car I have ever purchased.

So for this V8 here is the break-in process I will use.

Sledgehammer's Break-in Process:
1.) Drive for 1,500 miles (no crazy rev's, no burnouts, no racing etc...)|
2.) Oil change (empty, plus clear 2 extra quart of fresh oil)
3.) Drive fairly easy for the next 100 miles
4.) Have fun!
5.) Dyno it

Post your process below.

Thanks for the great info Right now, I have 90miles. I guess I will have 1500 miles in the middle of this month.

Satellite radio + Bose audio system + Engine/Exhaust sound are enough for now

Hope to enjoy the aggressive modes or high rev's legally soon too

[archer1965]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

Why does the owner's manual say only synthetic. I'd suggest a little reading on synthetic vs conventional oil if you aren't familiar with the subject.

Owners manual states AC Delco Dexos 1 Synthetic Blend. Page 326.

Break in: follow the owners manual recommendations. Design engineers know what they are talking about, it's their job and they are very good at it.

[mjw930]

Doing the same thing I've done for the last 10 cars. Drive it sensibly for the first 500 miles being careful to vary RPM's, not lug it and manage the heat cycles. Plenty of on and off power loading to make sure the diff, trans and rings are run it. I won't be worrying about max RPM's or max MPH but nothing extreme.

Change the oil and filter between 500 and 750 miles using this:



Then drive it like I stole it.

BTW, the oil that comes in the car is semi synthetic generic Dexos1 oil and that's what you'll get with the free changes. I don't plan on ever having the dealer change the oil. I can do a 10 QT change using that oil, with filter for $65.

[cellsafemode]

Originally Posted by mjw930

Doing the same thing I've done for the last 10 cars. Drive it sensibly for the first 500 miles being careful to vary RPM's, not lug it and manage the heat cycles. Plenty of on and off power loading to make sure the diff, trans and rings are run it. I won't be worrying about max RPM's or max MPH but nothing extreme.

Change the oil and filter between 500 and 750 miles using this:

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Then drive it like I stole it.

BTW, the oil that comes in the car is semi synthetic generic Dexos1 oil and that's what you'll get with the free changes. I don't plan on ever having the dealer change the oil. I can do a 10 QT change using that oil, with filter for $65.

with the penzoil 2 bucks rebate per qt, i would think that cost would be about 20 bucks less.