[90503]

Originally Posted by KaBoom1701

UAW's work hard and deserve the break....

Giving some good time off to spend with the family during Xmas is a good thing.

I realize people want their new cars but there are some more important things in life than your new car.....

Time off with family is great, I was just adding to what the post below mentioned about cleaning, "inspecting", etc.....Not everybody is off at that time.

Originally Posted by BradfordCamaro

These are manufacturing facilities that are absolutley enormous and employ thousands of people.
When do you think they have time to do maintenance? On Sunday Afternoon?
This has nothing to do with unions. Or deserving family time....don't we all.

It's the best time to shut everything down, inspect, clean, recalibrate and do preventitve maintenance. Even something simple like painting the floor would disrupt production if done on the weekend.

[ThePredator]

Ok some of yall sound ridiculous fyi, so u r telling me that they deserveit and we don't if you work hard in whatever field u deserve ur money/benefits, then let the whole country shut down just cos of holidays cos we have family's too to enjoy,to me sound like some spoiled ppl. Also they r not mining or in the middle of desert they operate machines in ac conditioned facility and break room etc.
silly bears.

[neal_zack]

my personal opion is good for them they must have a very good business agent at the negation table. UAW deserve every second of time off. This is what makes America great there not robots there real people with family's. Thanks to labor unions, wages have improved, the workweek is shorter and the workplace is safer.

[i007spectre]

As long as the shipping companies don't take a two week holiday.

[laborsmith]

Hauler load most of those days, winter break or summer break, and since I see them on the road during those time periods I suspect dealer deliveries also occur during those time periods.

Laborsmith

[ThePredator]

Originally Posted by neal_zack

my personal opion is good for them they must have a very good business agent at the negation table. UAW deserve every second of time off. This is what makes America great there not robots there real people with family's. Thanks to labor unions, wages have improved, the workweek is shorter and the workplace is safer.

They r not robots but they operate the robots, which make their jobs easier but anyways, my point is its kind of stupid to open production like couple of months ago then close down for 10 days I mean damn yall just started the damn production.

[Sledgehammer70]

Originally Posted by ThePredator

The Lansing plant will be closed for 2 weeks right ?
If so I was thinking why the plant will be closed down for 2 weeks during holidays ?
I mean I work in retail and we sure do work during holidays n we r ok with that ! A week is ok to be off but 2 weeks DAMNNN, anyways just a thought.

My industry is the same way. We shutdown for the last two weeks of the year.

[neal_zack]

Originally Posted by ThePredator

They r not robots but they operate the robots, which make their jobs easier but anyways, my point is its kind of stupid to open production like couple of months ago then close down for 10 days I mean damn yall just started the damn production.

Its in there contract that GM signed it wouldnt matter if they started production today.

[newnum]

Originally Posted by ILBMF

You make it sound like they don't get vacation or personal days. These guys make more money and have more benefits than most seasoned techs do. They are part of the reason the damn cars cost so much along with the Japanese and German competition. My family owned company must stay open to service our customer's needs which are many or we would lose them as customers.

educate yourself on unions and why they were organized....non-union workers also benefit from unions...

[neal_zack]

[ILBMF]

Originally Posted by newnum

educate yourself on unions and why they were organized....non-union workers also benefit from unions...

Oh I have educated myself on unions alright. When the GM plant was in Baltimore my dad's buddy was a forklift tech there way back. If he had to pull an engine out of a lift he would sometimes have to wait up to 4 hrs for an electrician to come from upstairs just to disconnect the battery before he could yank the engine. he would sit on his ass and wait. The union at the USPS has mechanics on the 3rd floor at the main post office in town. They make over 100k per year with OT and don't lift a finger. The work piles up and they call outside non union contractors to come clear the broken shit out...even replacing headlight bulbs.


At the Allison transmission plant here, the outside forklift companies have to come in repair the shit the GM guys can't or won't fix and they make the outside guys rollback the equipment out to the street to do the repairs so the babies won't cry. I did some warranty work on new equipment we sold to Giant foods and they told me that I work too fast and make their mechanics look bad. My buddy works for a union and when he started his job he was surrounded by the other techs and was told to slow the **** down and that a brake job should take 1.5 days to complete.


I could sit here and type all night, so don't tell me how good unions are. They are only good if you are a member while everybody else has to actually work hard which is the way it should be. This country is full of shit and cry babies, just look around. I'm glad I work hard and have to produce on a daily basis.

If GM was bought out back in '08 and the contracts were re-negotiated by new non union owners it would now be a better company IMO. Unions were good back when there were sweat shops and very unsafe conditions. Now they drive up costs and drive down productivity so don't preach to me about educating myself. What a joke!

[newnum]

Originally Posted by ILBMF

Oh I have educated myself on unions alright. When the GM plant was in Baltimore my dad's buddy was a forklift tech there way back. If he had to pull an engine out of a lift he would sometimes have to wait up to 4 hrs for an electrician to come from upstairs just to disconnect the battery before he could yank the engine. he would sit on his ass and wait. The union at the USPS has mechanics on the 3rd floor at the main post office in town. They make over 100k per year with OT and don't lift a finger. The work piles up and they call outside non union contractors to come clear the broken shit out...even replacing headlight bulbs.


At the Allison transmission plant here, the outside forklift companies have to come in repair the shit the GM guys can't or won't fix and they make the outside guys rollback the equipment out to the street to do the repairs so the babies won't cry. I did some warranty work on new equipment we sold to Giant foods and they told me that I work too fast and make their mechanics look bad. My buddy works for a union and when he started his job he was surrounded by the other techs and was told to slow the **** down and that a brake job should take 1.5 days to complete.


I could sit here and type all night, so don't tell me how good unions are. They are only good if you are a member while everybody else has to actually work hard which is the way it should be. This country is full of shit and cry babies, just look around. I'm glad I work hard and have to produce on a daily basis.

If GM was bought out back in '08 and the contracts were re-negotiated by new non union owners it would now be a better company IMO. Unions were good back when there were sweat shops and very unsafe conditions. Now they drive up costs and drive down productivity so don't preach to me about educating myself. What a joke!

visit the Corvette plant in Bowling Green if you get the chance...observe

[ILBMF]

I'm sure you were impressed

[DenverTaco07]

Another Union bashing thread? SMH.
Don't buy the car - don't complain, don't like that they get some time off, buy something else.