[Imp]

Originally Posted by DannyB

Anybody know if the system in the new Camaro will play FLAC files?

Most of my music collection is in FLAC format due to the better sound.

Per the manual:

The USB port can play both lower and upper case .mp3, .wma, .ogg, and .wav files stored on a USB storage device.

Using MP3/WMA/OGG/WAV Files

Music files with .mp3, .wma, .ogg, and .wav file name extensions can be played.

MP3 files that can be played: Bit rate: 8 kbps to 320 kbps. Sampling frequency: 48 kHz, 44.1 kHz, 32 kHz, 24 kHz, 22.05 kHz, and 16 kHz.

Files with a bit rate above 128 kbps will result in higher quality sound.

ID3 Tag information for MP3 files, such as the album name and the artist, can be played.

To display album title, track title, and artist information, the file should be compatible with the ID3 Tag V1 and V2 formats.

Only USB storage devices formatted in FAT16/32 or exFAT file systems are recognized. NTFS and other file systems are not recognized.

Nothing about FLAC.

--kC

[Johnman]

Originally Posted by kain279

WTF?

I can't believe this.

No Camaros with the Nav screen started in 2013 have CD players. My 2006 Charger SRT8 actually still had a cassette player (along with a 10 disc CD changer). Just 6 years later, I buy a Camaro ZL1 and no CD player even available. Kind of ridiculous.

[Imp]

Originally Posted by Johnman

No Camaros with the Nav screen started in 2013 have CD players. My 2006 Charger SRT8 actually still had a cassette player (along with a 10 disc CD changer). Just 6 years later, I buy a Camaro ZL1 and no CD player even available. Kind of ridiculous.

Not ridiculous at all. Tech evolves. CDs are old hat. Period. I'm in my late 40s and even *I* know this.

--kC

[Tr6]

Originally Posted by Imp

Not ridiculous at all. Tech evolves. CDs are old hat. Period. I'm in my late 40s and even *I* know this.

--kC

Couldn't agree more. Even SD cards are becoming obsolete due to MicroSd cards WITHIN the SD "card". Times are a changing... Whether we like it or not lol.

[fastball]

I'm 38 and have no desire to completely abandon CDs. One for sound quality, the other for the fact I haven't the time or patience to load my CDs on to anything..... USB stick, phone, whatever. I have 2 200 disc cases I have most of my CDs in. I carry the case in the car and back into the house when I pull in the garage. I've done it like that for 15+ years. Works for me. Don't lecture me on not moving into the future. Give me a CD player option or I'll use my portable player. Simple as that.

[Imp]

You're claiming purity of sound on a CD over an MP3, while in a moving car?

When you're driving on the road in a car, the sound quality will be effected *anyways*. There will be additional noises that will be introduced that will mess with *something* in the spectrum... tire noises, exhaust noises, engine noises, wife/gf noises, wind across windows, etc... that will muddy the sound.

The only time you're going to hear, actually... hear the difference, will be with headphones or a quiet setting (car off while in a garage).

Note, I'm not discounting being able to hear the difference, I can also... but being able to hear the subtle differences requires a completely controlled setting, which a moving car is not.

And thinking about you keeping those CDs in your car and moving them in and out... what if I told you, you don't have to do that anymore, you can leave them in the house where they won't get stolen.

--kC

[SS376]

Originally Posted by Johnman

No Camaros with the Nav screen started in 2013 have CD players. My 2006 Charger SRT8 actually still had a cassette player (along with a 10 disc CD changer). Just 6 years later, I buy a Camaro ZL1 and no CD player even available. Kind of ridiculous.

No cassette player either. It's an outrage.

[cuffnstuff1]

Originally Posted by SS376

No cassette player either. It's an outrage.

No 8-Track either

[FenwickHockey65]

I'm 24 and can't even remember the last time I bought a CD. 2007 maybe. And I have no idea where it even is. I think it's still at my parents' house in Ohio.

[Tr6]

Originally Posted by cuffnstuff1

No 8-Track either

WHAT?!?!?! YOU SERIOUS?!?!?!?! BURN THE HERETIC OF A CAR THIS CAMARO IS!

[GTIanZ28]

Originally Posted by Imp

You're claiming purity of sound on a CD over an MP3, while in a moving car?

When you're driving on the road in a car, the sound quality will be effected *anyways*. There will be additional noises that will be introduced that will mess with *something* in the spectrum... tire noises, exhaust noises, engine noises, wife/gf noises, wind across windows, etc... that will muddy the sound.

The only time you're going to hear, actually... hear the difference, will be with headphones or a quiet setting (car off while in a garage).

Note, I'm not discounting being able to hear the difference, I can also... but being able to hear the subtle differences requires a completely controlled setting, which a moving car is not.

And thinking about you keeping those CDs in your car and moving them in and out... what if I told you, you don't have to do that anymore, you can leave them in the house where they won't get stolen.

--kC

All of this!

I have a pretty decent home stereo. Yes, CD's sound better on a good CD player with the associated components vs any streaming, MP3, or TV audio. (Lossless formats are definitely close enough for home audio IMHO.)

But, you'll never realize that difference in a "stock" car audio system. Doubt it would make much difference in a true high end car audio system either for all the above mentioned reasons.

Now if you don't mind. I'd like to know where you park your car...... I could use a few hundred CD's.

[cartem2]

Lol

[fastball]

Originally Posted by Imp

You're claiming purity of sound on a CD over an MP3, while in a moving car?

When you're driving on the road in a car, the sound quality will be effected *anyways*. There will be additional noises that will be introduced that will mess with *something* in the spectrum... tire noises, exhaust noises, engine noises, wife/gf noises, wind across windows, etc... that will muddy the sound.

The only time you're going to hear, actually... hear the difference, will be with headphones or a quiet setting (car off while in a garage).

Note, I'm not discounting being able to hear the difference, I can also... but being able to hear the subtle differences requires a completely controlled setting, which a moving car is not.

And thinking about you keeping those CDs in your car and moving them in and out... what if I told you, you don't have to do that anymore, you can leave them in the house where they won't get stolen.

--kC

Originally Posted by GTIanZ28

All of this!

I have a pretty decent home stereo. Yes, CD's sound better on a good CD player with the associated components vs any streaming, MP3, or TV audio. (Lossless formats are definitely close enough for home audio IMHO.)

But, you'll never realize that difference in a "stock" car audio system. Doubt it would make much difference in a true high end car audio system either for all the above mentioned reasons.

Now if you don't mind. I'd like to know where you park your car...... I could use a few hundred CD's.

First off you're both assuming I'm sticking with the stock sound system. That is the first thing I'm tearing out - the entire Bose system. I will be replacing the speakers with Focals and the amps with JL Audios. One 4 channel for the front and rears, and one 600 monoblock for the JL Audio Hertz subwoofer.

Which leads to my second point, that when you have quality components and high powered amplifiers running them, you WILL hear a difference, in your car at 70 mph, between MP3 and CD. If you don't you simply don't care or pay attention. That's fine, that is your opinion. But I've repaired and installed car and home audio for 20 years. I've met many people in the electronics repair business from the 1970s, and from them I have listened to every old and new format, from quadrophonic records and 4 channel receivers from the 1970s on through all the digital formats today. Tube amps, electrostatic speakers, mini disc, DAT, reel-to-reel, you name it.

Trying not to go on and on here, but the truth is CD does sound better than MP3 on a good system. Factory systems are all pretty much flat, average, and useless. Even the Bose. It will be the first thing out of my Camaro.

[Johnman]

Originally Posted by Imp

Not ridiculous at all. Tech evolves. CDs are old hat. Period. I'm in my late 40s and even *I* know this.

--kC

So was vinyl. Until it came back.