How serious is GM about Performance ?? - Page 2

GTIanZ28 · 09-14-2015, 07:53 PM

I agree that it should be an available option. Maybe we'll see it on the 2017's. If enough people complain it will happen.

But, to say that Chevy isn't serious about performance is just silly.

Cars and Tea · 09-14-2015, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mr02Z/28

I was referring to the Non SS Autos, they still have an open rear

One could argue if your serious about performance get the top tier variant of the car.

ilirg · 09-14-2015, 08:12 PM

I think they proved they are very serious about performance today. If you are serious either get a manual or an SS

NASTY99Z28 · 09-14-2015, 08:15 PM

I have no problem with it not having one but it should have an option box to check if you want it.

ULTRAZLS1 · 09-14-2015, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NASTY99Z28

I have no problem with it not having one but it should have an option box to check if you want it.

Which could still add to overall cost.

more complexity/variation in the assembly process etc.

Number 3 · 09-14-2015, 09:22 PM

OP, this is really a verrrrry poorly worded post. How serious is GM about performance on the day they announced performance figures that on paper BURY the Mustang??????

Simply ask why didn't GM offer a limited slip diff on the non SS models and we might have had a good discussion.

Cost is one, mass likely another and simply that people buying the V6 and I4 likely wouldn't be buying it in volumes sufficient to add the manufacturing complexity.

laborsmith · 09-14-2015, 09:39 PM

I would say people buying an automatic transmission equipped Turbo 4 or a V 6 are not as interested in a limited slip differential than people buying manual transmission equipped of the same. And to extend the thought, Chevy has determined people buying an SS are interested because if you are spending the premium to go for the SS it is more likely than not you are doing so for performance results, whether auto or manual equipped.

Laborsmith

KMPrenger · 09-14-2015, 09:55 PM

I wish they had offered it on the 2.0 and V6 as well. I can certainly understand several reasons not to offer it (cost, complexity, low take rate). But we will never know just how much cost it could have added. In the end, it just might not be worth it.

If I had gone with the V6 again, and I ALMOST did, I'd be bummed that I couldn't get LSD, just like I was bummed the 5th gen V6 didn't have it, but those performance numbers announced today are undeniable impressive regardless.

Oh...and I think GM is VERY serious about performance.

VF-22 · 09-14-2015, 10:10 PM

They should just offer it and some other gear options and let people pick what they want....and that spoiler delete we've been asking for in the SS. Not everyone is going to track/race their SS.

bigdonut · 09-14-2015, 10:25 PM

I am looking forward to purchasing a 2017 Camaro with the 2.0T. With massive traffic in Los Angeles, I would most likely get the A8. It's kind of a letdown not seeing the LT A8's come with a LSD. I'm a bit bugged out by the fact that there's no option on the 2016 Camaro. I hope by the time 2017 Camaro comes around, there's some sort of option to give the LT trims a LSD.

By chance, anyone know how to let our voices be heard so that 2017 LT's come with a LSD option?

VF-22 · 09-14-2015, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdonut

I am looking forward to purchasing a 2017 Camaro with the 2.0T. With massive traffic in Los Angeles, I would most likely get the A8. It's kind of a letdown not seeing the A8 come with a LSD. I'm a bit bugged out by the fact that there's no option on the 2016 Camaro. I hope by the time 2017 Camaro comes around, there's some sort of option to give the LT trims a LSD.

By chance, anyone know how to let our voices be heard so that 2017 LT's come with a LSD option?

Twitter/FB and tell Al and Chevy.

garfin · 09-14-2015, 10:34 PM

I can't begin to tell you just how serious GM is about performance.

Knowing the Camaro team as I do, and those here who have met some of the team members, I know, will back me up on this and will tell you the same. It's a 'Take No Prisoners' attitude and approach. The team shares the same enthusiasm as we do for Camaro.

They will do whatever it takes to remain on top and will simply not accept 2nd place, whatever the circumstances.

Capieche?

Best regards,

Elie

bigdonut · 09-14-2015, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mr02Z/28

If GM/Chevy was truly serious about Performance for the 2016 Camaro they should have installed the Limited Slip Differentials across the entire Camaro lineup ....... Autos i'm referring to, with some gearing options, 3.00/3.15/3.23 etc ... The 2016 Camaro SS seems to be impressive no doubt ....not everyone wants to drive a stick and who wants a sporty car with an open rear ....just my.02 cents .....

Just because there's no LSD on the A8 LT's doesn't mean GM is not serious about performance. It is safe to assume that the majority of LT buyers with the A8 won't even care about having a LSD. That aforesaid majority probably doesn't even know what a LSD is anyway. I hope we will see a LSD option for the LT A8's for 2017, though! Maybe GM could cater to the minority.

DenverTaco07 · 09-14-2015, 11:15 PM

I agree with OP 100% if GM really cared about performance this is what they would have done instead:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/video/viral...way/vi-BBlThAi

If you don't do something close to this then you obviously don't care about performance.

09-14-2015, 08:15 PM	#18
NASTY99Z28 Drives: 99z28 with bolt-ons and a mwc fab 9 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 1,277	I have no problem with it not having one but it should have an option box to check if you want it. __________________ I like my woman like my milk shakes, THICK!!!!

09-14-2015, 09:22 PM	#20
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,301 View My Garage	OP, this is really a verrrrry poorly worded post. How serious is GM about performance on the day they announced performance figures that on paper BURY the Mustang?????? Simply ask why didn't GM offer a limited slip diff on the non SS models and we might have had a good discussion. Cost is one, mass likely another and simply that people buying the V6 and I4 likely wouldn't be buying it in volumes sufficient to add the manufacturing complexity. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

09-14-2015, 09:55 PM	#22
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,967	I wish they had offered it on the 2.0 and V6 as well. I can certainly understand several reasons not to offer it (cost, complexity, low take rate). But we will never know just how much cost it could have added. In the end, it just might not be worth it. If I had gone with the V6 again, and I ALMOST did, I'd be bummed that I couldn't get LSD, just like I was bummed the 5th gen V6 didn't have it, but those performance numbers announced today are undeniable impressive regardless. Oh...and I think GM is VERY serious about performance. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

09-14-2015, 10:34 PM	#26
garfin Resident Disciple Drives: 2010 CTS-V 6MN '98 Camaro SS (Sold) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Roches Point, Ontario, Canada Posts: 607	I can't begin to tell you just how serious GM is about performance. Knowing the Camaro team as I do, and those here who have met some of the team members, I know, will back me up on this and will tell you the same. It's a 'Take No Prisoners' attitude and approach. The team shares the same enthusiasm as we do for Camaro. They will do whatever it takes to remain on top and will simply not accept 2nd place, whatever the circumstances. Capieche? Best regards, Elie __________________ 2010 Cadillac CTS-V 6MN Thunder Gray 1998 Camaro SS # C079 SOLD

09-14-2015, 11:15 PM	#28
DenverTaco07 Drives: 2017 SS 1LE, 2017 Volt, 2013 Pilot Join Date: May 2014 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,274	I agree with OP 100% if GM really cared about performance this is what they would have done instead: http://www.msn.com/en-us/video/viral...way/vi-BBlThAi If you don't do something close to this then you obviously don't care about performance. __________________ 2017 SS 1LE \| HBM \| Vortech V3-Si supercharger (620RWHP and 575ft lbs) \| PDR \| Black Bowties \| Illuminated Front Black Bowtie \| Illuminated Door Sills \| Smoked Tails \| vented seats mod

09-14-2015, 07:53 PM	#15
GTIanZ28 Drives: 2016 V6 RS Camaro 6MT Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,102	I agree that it should be an available option. Maybe we'll see it on the 2017's. If enough people complain it will happen. But, to say that Chevy isn't serious about performance is just silly.

09-14-2015, 08:12 PM	#17
ilirg Drives: 2011 Camaro 2ss Join Date: May 2013 Location: nj Posts: 1,559	I think they proved they are very serious about performance today. If you are serious either get a manual or an SS

09-14-2015, 09:39 PM	#21
laborsmith Drives: 1969 Corvair, 2018 Camaro T4 RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Detroit Metropolitan Area Posts: 2,881	I would say people buying an automatic transmission equipped Turbo 4 or a V 6 are not as interested in a limited slip differential than people buying manual transmission equipped of the same. And to extend the thought, Chevy has determined people buying an SS are interested because if you are spending the premium to go for the SS it is more likely than not you are doing so for performance results, whether auto or manual equipped. Laborsmith

09-14-2015, 10:10 PM	#23
VF-22 Drives: 4 Wheels Join Date: May 2015 Location: USA Posts: 150	They should just offer it and some other gear options and let people pick what they want....and that spoiler delete we've been asking for in the SS. Not everyone is going to track/race their SS.

09-14-2015, 10:25 PM	#24
bigdonut Drives: Nothing Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 148	I am looking forward to purchasing a 2017 Camaro with the 2.0T. With massive traffic in Los Angeles, I would most likely get the A8. It's kind of a letdown not seeing the LT A8's come with a LSD. I'm a bit bugged out by the fact that there's no option on the 2016 Camaro. I hope by the time 2017 Camaro comes around, there's some sort of option to give the LT trims a LSD. By chance, anyone know how to let our voices be heard so that 2017 LT's come with a LSD option?

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