[Curr]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Over on Mustang6G's GT350 section some people have gotten 350's for at or below MSRP. Not as many prospective 350R owners have been successful though.

While a base 350 isn't nearly as comfortable as a loaded 2SS it also will be a much more pure performance machine.

Hand built and unique 5.2 FPC, lightweight transmission, wider and better tires. It's not for everyone and everyone's sensibilities are different. At my core I'm a drag racer so the GT350 isn't mu bag, but it's going to be a stupendously great car.

It'll be a 3 season car for me. I daily drive a M37x (which wife takes in winter, as she has a Lexus convertible) and in the winter I drive a Tundra.

So I could definitely live with a lot less tech-y toys for a crazy fun car. I could also live with a fully loaded 2SS convertible. I guess it'll just be a toss up after I test drive the 2SS.

That FPC V8 just sounds so f*cking nasty it screams "BUY ME!"

In the end, the consumers benefit, so it's a good time to be in the market for a new car!

[titanfan]

Originally Posted by Curr

Wow. Kudos to Ford. I wonder what the chances of getting one of these at MSRP next year will be?
I'll definitely be taking a hard look in the spring.

Thank you Ford, for forcing everyone to step up their game!

You can get one today for MSRP if you're will to shop around and go out of state to get the car. By next spring, I'd imagine most of the ADM hype would have faded.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

I love this car, it's gonna be a monster track car. And starting with an MSRP of under 50k, you'll be getting a lot for the money. It's starting price should be very close to that of a fully loaded 2SS.

They'll most likely be price gouging for mark ups, but that's another story.

It's not under 50k. You have a gg tax. Does anyone pay sales taxes either? Taxes on 50k is 3 grand at 6 percent in Michigan. And that's with no options. A no option camaro ss is 37k. Well actually a 1ss probably has more options than a base 350.

But it is a great value if you're the 1 percent of the population who road courses a car... And has over 50k to throw at a toy just dedicated to that.

Should be really great for those interested. To me it's just a 50k mustang with no options and a lot of hp. Don't get me wrong I appreciate what they are capable of... But I feel the same way about a z28. Which is even more expensive.

Impressive car but not for me. Maybe if I made more money I would have one as a toy. But it would need the tech package which is another 6-7 k I believe... I'm not paying that much for a car without amenities.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

It's not under 50k. You have a gg tax. Does anyone pay sales taxes either? Taxes on 50k is 3 grand at 6 percent in Michigan. And that's with no options. A no option camaro ss is 37k. Well actually a 1ss probably has more options than a base 350.

But it is a great value if you're the 1 percent of the population who road courses a car... And has over 50k to throw at a toy just dedicated to that.

Should be really great for those interested. To me it's just a 50k mustang with no options and a lot of hp. Don't get me wrong I appreciate what they are capable of... But I feel the same way about a z28. Which is even more expensive.

Impressive car but not for me. Maybe if I made more money I would have one as a toy. But it would need the tech package which is another 6-7 k I believe... I'm not paying that much for a car without amenities.

It's is under 50K with the gas guzzler tax. And even a "base" GT350 has most of the options that people want. It includes everything in a base GT and then some. Not sure what makes you think it's got no options...you may be thinking of the R, that is gutted out on purpose though.

[Curr]

Originally Posted by SUMMIT WHITE SS

It's is under 50K with the gas guzzler tax. And even a "base" GT350 has most of the options that people want. It includes everything in a base GT and then some. Not sure what makes you think it's got no options...you may be thinking of the R, that is gutted out on purpose though.

The "must" options for me: radio, powerful V8, goes fast when "go" pedal floored, great sounding exhaust, AC for hot days... that's about it for must-haves.

I'm with SW_SS, it's got all I need to make me really happy. That said, I still have to drive a 2SS to see how happy it makes me. Great decisions to have to make, 1st world problems and all that. I'm probably a weirdo for cross shopping a 2SS convertible and a GT350, but that's fine. Everyone's fancy gets tickled differently

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by SUMMIT WHITE SS

It's is under 50K with the gas guzzler tax. And even a "base" GT350 has most of the options that people want. It includes everything in a base GT and then some. Not sure what makes you think it's got no options...you may be thinking of the R, that is gutted out on purpose though.

Lol... 49,995? and your not gonna pay taxes ? And I'm talking base model when I say no option. Like the 1ss. Can't compare pricing of loaded vehicles with premium stereo, leather and heated cooled seats to base models. It's asinine.

Go buy one. Won't bother me. They are limited production. And good luck finding msrp right now.

Funny how the 1ss being 4k more than a base gt with 235s and single piston brakes is a huge deal but then people turn around and dismiss the 13 k price difference between 1ss and base gt350. I don't get it. To get the nice stuff in the 350 is another 6-7 k. More than the penalty for going 2ss. So the price gap Is actually a bit more after that between them.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by Curr

The "must" options for me: radio, powerful V8, goes fast when "go" pedal floored, great sounding exhaust, AC for hot days... that's about it for must-haves.

I'm with SW_SS, it's got all I need to make me really happy. That said, I still have to drive a 2SS to see how happy it makes me. Great decisions to have to make, 1st world problems and all that. I'm probably a weirdo for cross shopping a 2SS convertible and a GT350, but that's fine. Everyone's fancy gets tickled differently

So why are you shopping 2ss if that's all you need? The 1ss is 37k. A 2ss is 42 and pretty much loaded as is.

People comparing loaded models to base to suit arguments.

I call it like I see it.

[Curr]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

So why are you shopping 2ss if that's all you need? The 1ss is 37k. A 2ss is 42 and pretty much loaded as is.

People comparing loaded models to base to suit arguments.

I call it like I see it.

1) You used a word "need", that I didn't include in my posts. 2) I'm not making any arguments here, at all. I'm happy Ford is putting out great cars. And I'm happy Chevy is, and guess what I'm happy Dodge is, too! I'm glad they aren't all cookie cutter carbon copies of something. Funny that. I guess you could use some glasses to help you see?

Also, I don't need any of the cars I'm currently thinking about buying. (Scat Pack/SRT Chall, 2SS convertible, year old 2LT Corvette, GT350) I just want something, because I can.

TL;DR Why do you care so much about what someone else buys with their money? Butthurt GM stockholder?

[ChefBorOzzy]

There is a basically a 13k difference between the 1SS and a GT350 and almost a 17k difference between base GT and GT350. The GT350 is a great looking car and I'm sure a great performer, but it is a lot of money. Those acting that it's not, it's basically 50 percent more than the GT.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by Curr

1) You used a word "need", that I didn't include in my posts. 2) I'm not making any arguments here, at all. I'm happy Ford is putting out great cars. And I'm happy Chevy is, and guess what I'm happy Dodge is, too! I'm glad they aren't all cookie cutter carbon copies of something. Funny that. I guess you could use some glasses to help you see?

Also, I don't need any of the cars I'm currently thinking about buying. (Scat Pack/SRT Chall, 2SS convertible, year old 2LT Corvette, GT350) I just want something, because I can.

TL;DR Why do you care so much about what someone else buys with their money? Butthurt GM stockholder?

Same as you...why do you care? you are posting on the subject as well.

And yes...you specifically used the word need in your post. and that a radio and ac was all that you needed. Then say you want to compare it to a 2ss.

im confused. it looked like you were making the same asinine argument the ford fanboys do. maybe you need to take off the glasses. if not i apologize. i am comparing apples to apples and 100 % fair. even said the same things apply to the z28...how am i being biased? try again buddy

and why am i butthurt? because I wont pretend 53 k (what you will actually pay if you get it for msrp after taxes and GG)for a base track oriented car is cheap? yes cheap compared to a z28. but the base wont beat a z28 (the info has been posted). the R will...at about 10k cheaper. bravo...thats awesome...they leapfrogged a 10 year old platform and 10 year old engine.

I believe part of the reason the price was so high was...A. nothing to compare it to at the time to drive the price down. And B. They had to over engineer a 10 year old platform to get those results.
Im thinking GM will be able to compete in the future at around the same price with some version of the camaro. If not ill sleep just fine. I will never own either. The battle that the masses will see and appreciate is the GT vs SS in my opinion anyways...which goes back and forth as well. in 17 the mustang may be back on top.

At the price point it is very impressive for what it can do. What else can i say? i renounce my camaro ownership plans and im jumping ship to spend 53k on a track oriented ford mustang? ok...

because i refuse to compare it to another loaded car? thats common sense.give me a break..this car is not a high volume car many people will buy.

sorry if my post was too long...guess you must not read many posts at all if they are over a few lines.

maybe you should have read my post...

[KINGZ28]

So I'm the weirdo saying I hate the new mustang on a camaro forum. Let's get real. Wow that's why I think I hate mustangs because of the people that covet them are babies.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Lol... 49,995? and your not gonna pay taxes ? And I'm talking base model when I say no option. Like the 1ss. Can't compare pricing of loaded vehicles with premium stereo, leather and heated cooled seats to base models. It's asinine.

Go buy one. Won't bother me. They are limited production. And good luck finding msrp right now.

Funny how the 1ss being 4k more than a base gt with 235s and single piston brakes is a huge deal but then people turn around and dismiss the 13 k price difference between 1ss and base gt350. I don't get it. To get the nice stuff in the 350 is another 6-7 k. More than the penalty for going 2ss. So the price gap Is actually a bit more after that between them.

Who includes taxes in the sticker price? Nobody, especially since it varies from state to state, with some states not paying taxes on new cars. There is no "base" model GT350 that you keep talking about. Even the "base" car has plenty of features standard like Sync, Recaros, full power, air con, keyless entry with prox key, etc, etc. What that car is about is the motor/trans/suspension anyway. I am not one of the people whining about or comparing the prices of either car in this thread. I think the new GT350 is a badass car for sure, I also think the new SS will be too. Just different...but I am not (and not saying you are, but they are in here) one of the Camaro leg humpers who can't give credit where credit is due.

[KINGZ28]

And rev them in traffic like its the best car in the world.

[Blackdevil77]

Wow, I'm sorry I brought it up. I was simply stating that for the price of a base GT350 starting, the price would be close to that of a loaded 2016 2SS. I wasn't saying one is better than the other, that all depends on what you want. I believe the GT350 will perform better than the 2SS and it should, it's a track car. The 2SS I believe will be far more comfortable with A LOT more amenities for the price.