[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by mt3130

You will find that the sentiment you are describing is very popular on muscle/pony car forums.

But it really doesn't belong on a forum for a car being made in 2016. If you want a car that is bare bones with modern performance...resto mods is where you should be. I know there's a vocal minority that talks about it, but 98% of drivers today do not.

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[amerhash28]

Originally Posted by mt3130

You will find that the sentiment you are describing is very popular on muscle/pony car forums.

Yes,UNFORTUNATELY!

[laborsmith]

The fact is manual window mechanisms are of more weight than their power windows counterparts but the image is the power windows weigh more. Another case of reality being trumped by myth.

Laborsmith

[amerhash28]

Originally Posted by laborsmith

The fact is manual window mechanisms are of more weight than their power windows counterparts but the image is the power windows weigh more. Another case of reality being trumped by myth.

Laborsmith

Agree.Addition to this even if the power windows weight 100 times more it still worth it.for me power,luxury and convenience features are priceless. Now some people said to me that I should look for a European hi-po cae,I would definitely get an F-TYPE R if I had the money for it but I don't so I will have to go with another one of my favourite cars which is the camaro and it suits me perfectly. It has the power it has the tech so what more can I ask for(with this price range)

[Jeffro19]

I like all the new tech on the 6gen. Bring it!

[LbulletM]

The thing is, the tech isn't really going to contribute that much to sticker shock. Displays are getting cheaper and cheaper to make, same goes for the rest of the tech. CD players were a huge deal when they came out, but once they were near ubiquitous, they were included in everything. Screens are already getting to that level of ubiquity from what I've seen in pretty much everything at the 25k+ level.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Jeffro19

I like all the new tech on the 6gen. Bring it!

Yep. Once the performance of modern cars surpassed my vintage muscle car, I sold it. love me some modern muscle

[sschons74]

I like power windows, but I don't need a touchscreen in my car, and I'm pretty sure it cost more than a couple hundred $ to include it. I also like H.U.D. I think it adds to the driving experience, but a touch screen, it's a distraction. I could see the screen being used for a backup camera, but not to play around with while driving. At least the C7 has the screen facing the driver, which seems better.

[vtirocz]

Originally Posted by laborsmith

The fact is manual window mechanisms are of more weight than their power windows counterparts but the image is the power windows weigh more. Another case of reality being trumped by myth.

Laborsmith

I've heard this before, but somewhat skeptical. Do you have any evidence of this claim? Either way, I'd expect there to be minimal difference between the power and manual setups.

[LbulletM]

Originally Posted by sschons74

I like power windows, but I don't need a touchscreen in my car, and I'm pretty sure it cost more than a couple hundred $ to include it.

You can buy a myriad of high def tablets out there with pretty good screens for well below the $200 mark and some below the $100 mark. So not including their profit, processors, cameras, batteries, other internals, etc. on top of just the screen. Screens are cheap now, especially in bulk orders large enough to put in cars.

[HDRDTD]

Originally Posted by vtirocz

I've heard this before, but somewhat skeptical. Do you have any evidence of this claim? Either way, I'd expect there to be minimal difference between the power and manual setups.

I've heard it straight from GM. I was surprised as well.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by sschons74

I like power windows, but I don't need a touchscreen in my car, and I'm pretty sure it cost more than a couple hundred $ to include it. I also like H.U.D. I think it adds to the driving experience, but a touch screen, it's a distraction. I could see the screen being used for a backup camera, but not to play around with while driving. At least the C7 has the screen facing the driver, which seems better.

Take a look at the price jump on the fully loaded Mustang GTs from 2014 to 2015. The features added really don't cost as much as you think.

[laborsmith]

Per my memory, in the lead up to the Sonic, but can recall if it was an engineer in a GM produced video or the q&a in San Francisco. Following those events there was discussion on the Sonic forum but I do not believe the specific weight difference was mentioned.

Laborsmith

[amerhash28]

Originally Posted by sschons74

I like power windows, but I don't need a touchscreen in my car, and I'm pretty sure it cost more than a couple hundred $ to include it. I also like H.U.D. I think it adds to the driving experience, but a touch screen, it's a distraction. I could see the screen being used for a backup camera, but not to play around with while driving. At least the C7 has the screen facing the driver, which seems better.

Using the touchscreen while driving is an absolute crazy thing to do. Yes its not THAT much useful for me(while driving)but when I get in a car without a screen,I feel like something is missing.besides,you'll need it for tuning the drive modes,customize the interior lighting,etc.... but after all its an absolute personal thing