[crysalis_01]

Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

Actually, I can list 3 people off the top of my head that call it a sedan on that forum. Instead of just talking about how good their cars are, they're constantly slinging crap at a competitor. Why?

Insecurity I would imagine. They, and many others, feel the need to justify their choice in vehicle. Instead of just enjoying them, and not caring what the guy next to you is driving, like one should.

[Bongos2U]

http://www.torquenews.com/106/shelby...faster-grattan

This will probably be short-lived when the 6th gen z/28 comes out. Ford guys can have their day in the sun for a little while.

[titanfan]

Originally Posted by Bongos2U

http://www.torquenews.com/106/shelby...faster-grattan

This will probably be short-lived when the 6th gen z/28 comes out. Ford guys can have their day in the sun for a little while.

That's usually the way it goes. Z/28 was short-lived until the GT350 came out. Prior to that, the Boss 302 had it's day in the sun, as you put it. Doesn't take anything away from the engineering efforts of both organizations.

[Bongos2U]

Originally Posted by ztwentypoop

That's usually the way it goes. Z/28 was short-lived until the GT350 came out. Prior to that, the Boss 302 had it's day in the sun, as you put it. doesn't take anything away from the engineering efforts of both organizations.

Agreed.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by ztwentypoop

That's usually the way it goes. Z/28 was short-lived until the GT350 came out. Prior to that, the Boss 302 had it's day in the sun, as you put it. Doesn't take anything away from the engineering efforts of both organizations.

The GT350 still has to prove it can actually beat the Z/28 but regardless the next few years are going to be fun.

[NASTY99Z28]

Originally Posted by ztwentypoop

That's usually the way it goes. Z/28 was short-lived until the GT350 came out. Prior to that, the Boss 302 had it's day in the sun, as you put it. Doesn't take anything away from the engineering efforts of both organizations.

Gotta love progression. Aka leap frog.

[titanfan]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

The GT350 still has to prove it can actually beat the Z/28 but regardless the next few years are going to be fun.

It already beats it in MSRP, power, weight and available options, but you just keep hanging on to that hope, if it makes you feel better. I do agree though, the future looks bright for performance enthusiasts of all makes.

[Sidedraft]

For $63K I would rather have a 1LT Z51 C7 with magnetic suspension. Smaller car, better looking, better equipped and better economy compared to a GT350R.

The base GT350 with track pack will be a good bargain if one can be had at MSRP. I would still pick the C7 for $5k more unless I had a need for rear seats.

[BaylorCamaro]

I'm really curious if/what GM is going to do to answer the GT350 / GT350R. To be able to compete against that Voodoo engine the LT1 isn't going to cut it and we haven't heard a thing about another N/A engine similar to the old LS7, aside from the attempt to do another 7 liter only to be halted due to emissions.

Combine that with the fact that Ford is claiming that the GT350R is over a second faster than the Z/28 and the GT350 is about on pace with a C7 Z51. It seems to me that an attempt to top the GT350R would require a Camaro that is quite a bit superior to a Corvette.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro

I'm really curious if/what GM is going to do to answer the GT350 / GT350R. To be able to compete against that Voodoo engine the LT1 isn't going to cut it and we haven't heard a thing about another N/A engine similar to the old LS7, aside from the attempt to do another 7 liter only to be halted due to emissions.

Combine that with the fact that Ford is claiming that the GT350R is over a second faster than the Z/28 and the GT350 is about on pace with a C7 Z51. It seems to me that an attempt to top the GT350R would require a Camaro that is quite a bit superior to a Corvette.

Or a new NA Corvette (grand sport) with 550hp and slightly slower Z/28. Only time will tell.

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[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro

I'm really curious if/what GM is going to do to answer the GT350 / GT350R. To be able to compete against that Voodoo engine the LT1 isn't going to cut it and we haven't heard a thing about another N/A engine similar to the old LS7, aside from the attempt to do another 7 liter only to be halted due to emissions.

Combine that with the fact that Ford is claiming that the GT350R is over a second faster than the Z/28 and the GT350 is about on pace with a C7 Z51. It seems to me that an attempt to top the GT350R would require a Camaro that is quite a bit superior to a Corvette.

I don't see GM going for a direct GT350 competitor, let alone the R. The Z/28 happened because it was the right circumstances. I would be shocked if we even saw a 6th gen 1LE.

[Iroc_Z28]

Originally Posted by BaylorCamaro

I'm really curious if/what GM is going to do to answer the GT350 / GT350R. To be able to compete against that Voodoo engine the LT1 isn't going to cut it and we haven't heard a thing about another N/A engine similar to the old LS7, aside from the attempt to do another 7 liter only to be halted due to emissions.

Combine that with the fact that Ford is claiming that the GT350R is over a second faster than the Z/28 and the GT350 is about on pace with a C7 Z51. It seems to me that an attempt to top the GT350R would require a Camaro that is quite a bit superior to a Corvette.

In terms of what could power the next Z28, a hopped up lt1 (think ls1 to ls6) could fit the bill nicely. From what i've seen Lingenfelter offer, a heads/cam/tune package can get the lt1 over 500 hp fairly easy. This is the package i'm referring to: http://www.lingenfelter.com/engine-p...cid-lt1-550-hp

[BaylorCamaro]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

Or a new NA Corvette (grand sport) with 550hp and slightly slower Z/28. Only time will tell.

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Originally Posted by Iroc_Z28

In terms of what could power the next Z28, a hopped up lt1 (think ls1 to ls6) could fit the bill nicely. From what i've seen Lingenfelter offer, a heads/cam/tune package can get the lt1 over 500 hp fairly easy. This is the package i'm referring to: http://www.lingenfelter.com/engine-p...cid-lt1-550-hp

That's what I was thinking too. However I would think it would first appear in a Corvette (Grandsport?) and then trickle down into the Camaro.

[titanfan]

Originally Posted by Iroc_Z28

In terms of what could power the next Z28, a hopped up lt1 (think ls1 to ls6) could fit the bill nicely. From what i've seen Lingenfelter offer, a heads/cam/tune package can get the lt1 over 500 hp fairly easy. This is the package i'm referring to: http://www.lingenfelter.com/engine-p...cid-lt1-550-hp

Question is, will they build it? Even if they have ideas on the drivetrain, how are they going to package it? While the z/28 performance was impressive, to say the least, it was not a car that was priced effectively, IMHO. At $75K, it put it out of reach for all but the wealthy enthusiasts or the die-hard track junkies who were willing to mortgage the farm to get it. Ford is offering many more buying and content options with the GT350, and I think GM will need to follow their lead with the next generation of a z/28 versus their previous model.