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Old 06-28-2015, 08:23 PM   #57
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It just goes to show you as much as the back and fourth between the track guys and straight line burners happen here on what matters most, the 1/4 mile is the gold standard when it comes to measuring a cars performance.
Yes I agree the 1/4 mile is much more important than track numbers IMO.
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:02 AM   #58
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1/4mi is a better indicator of horsepower, for sure.
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Old 06-29-2015, 02:02 PM   #59
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Mid 12s mag reviews and as fast as 11.8-9 private owner hero times for the a8 ss.
M6 times will be all over the place. But plenty of them got 12.8 to 13.1 with the ls3 m6. I would expect mag times in the 12.5-7 range for the m6 ss.

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I pretty much agree with this. the magazine reviews will have it a mid 12 car, I would say anywhere from probably 12.5 to 12.7 for your magazine driver as well

Only thing I don't know about is the hero runs. I don't think it has enough to hit high 11s as it comes off the showroom floor. That is ZL1 territory, while I am not saying it wont happen, I don't see hero runs cracking 12.00
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Old 06-29-2015, 02:55 PM   #60
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I pretty much agree with this. the magazine reviews will have it a mid 12 car, I would say anywhere from probably 12.5 to 12.7 for your magazine driver as well

Only thing I don't know about is the hero runs. I don't think it has enough to hit high 11s as it comes off the showroom floor. That is ZL1 territory, while I am not saying it wont happen, I don't see hero runs cracking 12.00
It will be close. But I'm betting someone pulls it off. Good times.

12.5-12.7 should be done with the m6 in most mags. Guessing the a8 will show 12.4-5 in mags.

Not to diss the zl1 or anyone who owns them. It is a fine machine. But when it comes to the 1/4 mile I haven't been very impressed with it. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see a stock 6th gen ss a8 be pretty close to it. Much closer than you would think looking at the 580 hp. Betting a zl1 will only have a slight edge stock for stock.

What is the fastest bone stock zl1 11.7-8? Can't remember. The zl1 advantage will only be a couple tenths if I had to guess.
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Old 06-29-2015, 03:07 PM   #61
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It will be close. But I'm betting someone pulls it off. Good times.

12.5-12.7 should be done with the m6 in most mags. Guessing the a8 will show 12.4-5 in mags.

Not to diss the zl1 or anyone who owns them. It is a fine machine. But when it comes to the 1/4 mile I haven't been very impressed with it. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see a stock 6th gen ss a8 be pretty close to it. Much closer than you would think looking at the 580 hp. Betting a zl1 will only have a slight edge stock for stock.

What is the fastest bone stock zl1 11.7-8? Can't remember. The zl1 advantage will only be a couple tenths if I had to guess.
Agree with all the above! If the auto can run a 12:30-12:40 stock that will be a huge improvement over the 5th Gen, with that starting point some minor bolts on and DRs should put the car easily into the 11s.
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Old 06-29-2015, 03:15 PM   #62
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Stock C7s have managed mid to high 11s stock in their hero runs. The Camaro SS will weigh what....maybe three to four hundred pounds more? That could certainly equate to high 11, low 12 hero runs for the A8 SS.

Unless for some reason the SS just can't launch like the C7 does.
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Old 06-29-2015, 03:26 PM   #63
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My Prediction? PAIN. (said in my best Clubber Lange voice)
For Ford and Dodge and they might take away a few sales from the 3 series as well and at this point I'm not sure the Genesis coupe or Z is even is selling much to compete with it.
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Old 06-29-2015, 04:19 PM   #64
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Stock C7s have managed mid to high 11s stock in their hero runs. The Camaro SS will weigh what....maybe three to four hundred pounds more? That could certainly equate to high 11, low 12 hero runs for the A8 SS.

Unless for some reason the SS just can't launch like the C7 does.
Actually I can't remember which mag... But the z51 equipped c7 weighed in right at 3500 or a couple pounds more. Those have gone mid 11s private owner. A base ss might only be 200 lbs heavier than a z51 stingray.

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For Ford and Dodge and they might take away a few sales from the 3 series as well and at this point I'm not sure the Genesis coupe or Z is even is selling much to compete with it.
LMAO...perfect.

Honestly it's going to be a drivers race with an a8 392. If I had to bet though I would give the edge to the camaro. It should have a power to weight edge and gm had the advantage of coming out afterwards/ can benchmark.
The mustang gt has absolutely zero chance of beating the camaro ss for 2016. Zero. As you said PAIN!
Camaro ss should have a decisive edge for sure over stang gt. I pity the fool!
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Old 06-29-2015, 06:21 PM   #65
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Stock C7s have managed mid to high 11s stock in their hero runs. The Camaro SS will weigh what....maybe three to four hundred pounds more? That could certainly equate to high 11, low 12 hero runs for the A8 SS.

Unless for some reason the SS just can't launch like the C7 does.
The a8 stingrays really get out if the hole. Great 60' times on stock tires.

Hopefully the Camaro does too.
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:10 AM   #66
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Closer to 12.1-12.2
I don't think so, that's stock C7 territory and it weighs 300-400 lbs less.
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I don't think so, that's stock C7 territory and it weighs 300-400 lbs less.
From the sounds of it they're about 300lbs less and a a8 C7 is a high 11 second car in good air.
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Old 06-30-2015, 09:53 AM   #68
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I'll go with average magazine times of 12.2 for the auto, 12.4 for the manual.

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The auto challenger scat pack does 12.6 per C&D. The challenger has a weight/power of 8.79 (at 4276 curb weight) versus 8.35 (assuming a pessimistic curb weight of 3800lbs). In addition, launching the challenger is largely traction limited. The combination of better weight/power ratio and better launch capability (wider rubber, less weight and power to overwhelm contact patch) of the camaro should, in my mind, be worth .4 sec in the quarter. Across most of this class of cars, the magazine drivers seem to run a consistent .2 sec slower in the manuals.
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Old 06-30-2015, 10:14 AM   #69
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Vs a 5th gen auto ss I'd say the difference is more like .7 seconds. That's a big difference. I used to own a 2005 gto that ran what a l99 camaro runs and it was not even quick until it had some mods. Once it was doing low 12s it was fun and I want that stock, full warranty and 24 mpg average.

Bolt ons might make a l99 Camaro almost as fast as a gen6 but bolt ons will make a gen6 as fast as a Stingray.
I have an Ls3 with a 1le gear 3:91 and a mild 30 more hp at motor I think that alone will be a even race.
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It will be close. But I'm betting someone pulls it off. Good times.

12.5-12.7 should be done with the m6 in most mags. Guessing the a8 will show 12.4-5 in mags.

Not to diss the zl1 or anyone who owns them. It is a fine machine. But when it comes to the 1/4 mile I haven't been very impressed with it. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see a stock 6th gen ss a8 be pretty close to it. Much closer than you would think looking at the 580 hp. Betting a zl1 will only have a slight edge stock for stock.

What is the fastest bone stock zl1 11.7-8? Can't remember. The zl1 advantage will only be a couple tenths if I had to guess.
According to C5 fast list there are 2 bone stock ZL1 that have gone 11.5. Majority in the top 20 of the bone stock fast list is between 11.7 and 12.2

I know the ZL1 is a bit of porker but I just have hard time seeing a hero run of the 6th gen with the A8 hitting times that not many 580HP Zl1s have even seen.

I am not saying it won't happen, I just have a hard time seeing it happen.
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