[CCMADONNA]

OKAY, I actually had to chose between a MB, an Audi, and the Camaro last year. No, I did not look at an SL roadster, I live in the real world where I have to work for a living and pay a mortgage, so i looked at the cabriolets: The E350, the A5 and the SR5 (love, love, love, but no $, no$$, no$$$) and the 2SS/RS. The Germans were very nice, but very expensive. The Camaro on the other hand, had the BADASSERY factor. So yeah, I went it.

[90503]

Originally Posted by Number 3

So the question is how much will the price premium be to add the complex top with a folding hard tonneau cover?

If GM holds pricing and says hey, it's a way better convertible than the Mustang and they are the same price WOW.

But if GM tries to add premium pricing for a premium convertible then I'm worried.

My guess is that people will pay more for this as it is better. Noticeably better than the Mustang.

But again it seems the last bit of information here is pricing. And something tells me GM is going up market just a weeee but with the Gen6 coupe and convertible.

If price is a concern, the first thing to me that would get ruled out would be a convertible top....It screams "upscale" on it's own, as in impractical and a pure luxury, that is easily done without....

Whatever the stand-alone price is for a convertible, upscale or otherwise, to those who are happy without one, it's a non-issue....To those who have to have one, probably a bigger price tag wouldn't be a deal breaker....

A fully loaded Camaro convertible will probably still be a bargain compared to other brands.....I would rather have a quality, upscale convertible top that would be worth the money, should I ever be in the market for one...

I don't know....lol....just sayin' an "expensive, up-scale" convertible Camaro wouldn't really be a shocker....

[Johnman]

I wonder if the rear seats will fold down on the convertible this time? Probably not, but we can hope. If not, this car is barely above a vette for practicality. My Mini Cooper vert had fold down seats; it can be done. Still, a great looking car.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by Johnman

I wonder if the rear seats will fold down on the convertible this time? Probably not, but we can hope. If not, this car is barely above a vette for practicality. My Mini Cooper vert had fold down seats; it can be done. Still, a great looking car.

I have used mine to haul a 10 foot long 2X12, 6 8 foot long 4x4 land scraping timbers, a 8X10 indoor outdoor carpet roll and a 60" LCD big screen TV. Who says it's not practical?

[Zapote21]

Hahaha I was at ikea with mine the other day loading a few boxes and this old guy says to me, man that thing is better than a pick up...And probably a better ride... LOL

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

I have used mine to haul a 10 foot long 2X12, 6 8 foot long 4x4 land scraping timbers, a 8X10 indoor outdoor carpet roll and a 60" LCD big screen TV. Who says it's not practical?

Looks like you need to borrow your neighbor's Dodge.

[fastball]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

I have used mine to haul a 10 foot long 2X12, 6 8 foot long 4x4 land scraping timbers, a 8X10 indoor outdoor carpet roll and a 60" LCD big screen TV. Who says it's not practical?

Haha love it!

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by motorhead

Looks like you need to borrow your neighbor's Dodge.

Nope this is what happened with him a couple weeks ago.. He got busted and had drugs in that truck....

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

I have used mine to haul a 10 foot long 2X12, 6 8 foot long 4x4 land scraping timbers, a 8X10 indoor outdoor carpet roll and a 60" LCD big screen TV. Who says it's not practical?

Hey why not. I would probably do the same thing

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

I have used mine to haul a 10 foot long 2X12, 6 8 foot long 4x4 land scraping timbers, a 8X10 indoor outdoor carpet roll and a 60" LCD big screen TV. Who says it's not practical?

[90503]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

I have used mine to haul a 10 foot long 2X12, 6 8 foot long 4x4 land scraping timbers, a 8X10 indoor outdoor carpet roll and a 60" LCD big screen TV. Who says it's not practical?

Originally Posted by Zapote21

Hahaha I was at ikea with mine the other day loading a few boxes and this old guy says to me, man that thing is better than a pick up...And probably a better ride... LOL

Originally Posted by Jeffro19

Hey why not. I would probably do the same thing

Well, with this little sampling, probably why "up-scale" buyers of convertibles go with BMW and others....

The Camaro, even the convertible, looks like it's in no danger of being considered up-scale...lol....

[RobWH]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

2015 is half over. Your link doesn't prove anything. I couldn't even find any data or sources etc. no sales numbers for half of them.Just an article with rankings and no explanation. Does it even say what year? VW sales are lower than in my link and they jumped to first? The number 10 spot they quote last years sales. It's all over the place that article has a bunch of holes. Guess the sales could be harder to track as you mentioned.

Don't really care either way... But your argument that they are popular so they won't have people hating on them is unrealistic. It's actually just the opposite.

It says 2015 right on it and part of my point is what you complained about... this "information" is all over the place and... since GM evidently stopped reporting in July of 2013, can we actually know the truth?

That said, I'll give them 3rd place, knowing the numbers are all over. That still proves my initial point... not everyone loves to bash GM.

I can show lists where GM is #6... would you think those true? http://transport.asiaone.com/news/ge...companies-2014

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

You haven't been that involved with the auto industry have you?

This topic is about me? OH! Retired after 28yrs.

By the way, if you're going to get on a personal attack, try gathering AT LEAST ONE(1) FACT before you spout. Otherwise, you just look like an angry child w/out a clue.

Originally Posted by CCMADONNA

OKAY, I actually had to chose between a MB, an Audi, and the Camaro last year. No, I did not look at an SL roadster, I live in the real world where I have to work for a living and pay a mortgage, so i looked at the cabriolets: The E350, the A5 and the SR5 (love, love, love, but no $, no$$, no$$$) and the 2SS/RS. The Germans were very nice, but very expensive. The Camaro on the other hand, had the BADASSERY factor. So yeah, I went it.

The SLK Roadster starts @ $43,950... WAY OVER the Camaro 2SS, huh? All of $550. If that breaks your bank, realistically, you shouldn't be buying either. My pickup had a higher MSRP.

BMW 2 starts @ $37,900 and 4, @ $48,750... point is, you could get a similarly priced MB or BMW.

Audi A3? $35,600. A5? $47,600. TTRoadster? $43,350

If you look, there's plenty available in the same price range... in the real world. The 2SS/RS MSRP is $44,750. Is that less expensive than all of those listed?

Did $3,000 really kill the A5 for you? I doubt it. I would probably choose the 2SS/RS myself, but the bigger point is, price isn't the biggest factor and certainly shouldn't be, for anyone in the 'vert market.

Originally Posted by 90503

If price is a concern, the first thing to me that would get ruled out would be a convertible top....It screams "upscale" on it's own, as in impractical and a pure luxury, that is easily done without....

Whatever the stand-alone price is for a convertible, upscale or otherwise, to those who are happy without one, it's a non-issue....To those who have to have one, probably a bigger price tag wouldn't be a deal breaker....

A fully loaded Camaro convertible will probably still be a bargain compared to other brands.....I would rather have a quality, upscale convertible top that would be worth the money, should I ever be in the market for one...

I don't know....lol....just sayin' an "expensive, up-scale" convertible Camaro wouldn't really be a shocker....

Well said. Available funding is still the biggest overall factor in choosing, but you aren't wrong. If ya can't afford to spend more for a convertible than a hardtop... you don't get a convertible. That is, those in the 'vert market... have the money to buy one, because like you said, they (assuredly) cost more unless the model is only available as convertible.

Originally Posted by Johnman

I wonder if the rear seats will fold down on the convertible this time? Probably not, but we can hope. If not, this car is barely above a vette for practicality. My Mini Cooper vert had fold down seats; it can be done. Still, a great looking car.

I wouldn't expect it. The main reason could be, those seats serve as a protection point for the roof and for the occupants(when down). It can be done, but the Mini is so different, it's easier to see it done there.

Originally Posted by motorhead

Looks like you need to borrow your neighbor's Dodge.

I was thinking the same since it was right there!

Originally Posted by Number 3

[classicrockr]

Originally Posted by 90503

Well, with this little sampling, probably why "up-scale" buyers of convertibles go with BMW and others....

The Camaro, even the convertible, looks like it's in no danger of being considered up-scale...lol....

I've driven camaro and BMW verts. I liked the camaro the best and with the enhancements for 2016, this is as upscale as it gets IMO.

[GroundhogSS]

Originally Posted by fastball

I think he means the colors for the roof fabric. Yes all standard colors should be available for the body. I actually think blue and brown convertible tops are just beautiful when matched to the right exterior body color. Blue with silver looks fantastic. Really pops, and looks really upscale.

I was hoping for a white or grey top to go with a silver car. I'll have to consider the blue for the top. I guess I need to look for some pictures.