Thoughts on the M7 with rev match - Page 2

IOMike · 03-18-2015, 11:34 AM

The 7 speed, in my opinion, will stay Corvette. Would be nice to see the active rev match and no lift shift make its way to the Camaro though. To be honest, that's the only way I'd consider a manual. I didn't grow up driving them and find them to be annoying in any circumstance other than banging gears at WOT.

PoorMansCamaro · 03-18-2015, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSound

Same things got said when we went from 5spds to 6spds. People have to relearn.

why would you have to relearn on a 6spd? 1-5 all stay the same...

oneredry · 03-18-2015, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ssmike

It's all about MPG's these days!

While this maybe true....

In my opinioin, when your drving a muscle car, one would think that MPG isn't as big of a deal as true muscle. Now, this is why we have v6's that way you get a combination of both. To me, MPG isn't that important over HP. I guess if you can afford a 35+ car, you can afford 3.00 - 3.50 a gallon (currently).

Z/284ever · 03-18-2015, 12:53 PM

Another think to consider, a 7 speed trans weighs more than a 6 speed trans....

PoorMansCamaro · 03-18-2015, 01:01 PM

going to have to get one of these, with 7 speeds...

PoorMansCamaro · 03-18-2015, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by oneredry

While this maybe true....

In my opinioin, when your drving a muscle car, one would think that MPG isn't as big of a deal as true muscle. Now, this is why we have v6's that way you get a combination of both. To me, MPG isn't that important over HP. I guess if you can afford a 35+ car, you can afford 3.00 - 3.50 a gallon (currently).

Car manufacturers aren't making muscle cars get better gas mileage because it's what people want. It's because of CAFE standards.

ChefBorOzzy · 03-18-2015, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Z/284ever

Another think to consider, a 7 speed trans weighs more than a 6 speed trans....

False.. And True. Depends what you're comparing. TR6070 weighs less than the TR6060 I believe.. I guess they probably have a newer version of the 6 speed that weighs less though.. Idk.

Z/284ever · 03-18-2015, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

False.. And True. Depends what you're comparing. TR6070 weighs less than the TR6060 I believe.. I guess they probably have a newer version of the 6 speed that weighs less though.. Idk.

All things being equal.

DrkPhx · 03-18-2015, 01:34 PM

I'm sure the M7 will be in the new Camaro. I wouldn't mind the auto rev match feature because you can turn it on and off. I've read a lot about the M7 which mostly seems to get favorable reviews (including rev match)except for the tighter gates because of the additional gear which takes getting used to.

However, the A8 is quicker ET wise, lighter than the outgoing A6 (better mpg as well) and is more popular (and $$$). The only bad knock I've read on the A8 is it's not good for heavy track use (GM recommends the M7 for track use at least on the ZO6). That's related to cooling which might not affect the new Camaro because it might have better cooling. I guess we'll have to find out.

SuperSound · 03-18-2015, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

why would you have to relearn on a 6spd? 1-5 all stay the same...

People went from 3rd to 6th instead of 4th because they weren't used to another bottom gear on the right. I'm sure people missed 2 to 3 and went 2 to 5 when they first drove a 5 spd.

DSX_Camaro · 03-18-2015, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSound

People went from 3rd to 6th instead of 4th because they weren't used to another bottom gear on the right. I'm sure people missed 2 to 3 and went 2 to 5 when they first drove a 5 spd.

I can confirm this statement. I learned on a CJ5 4 speed Jeep... and when I got my 91 YJ with the 5 speed I went from 2 to 5 a lot at first.

Z/284ever · 03-18-2015, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSound

People went from 3rd to 6th instead of 4th because they weren't used to another bottom gear on the right. I'm sure people missed 2 to 3 and went 2 to 5 when they first drove a 5 spd.

If I'm just putt putting around, I go from 2nd to 4th or 3rd to 6th all the time.

I've also unconsciously reached for the phantom 6th gear in my IROC-Z, from time to time . Crunch.

SuperSound · 03-18-2015, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Z/284ever

If I'm just putt putting around, I go from 2nd to 4th or 3rd to 6th all the time.

I've also unconsciously reached for the phantom 6th gear in my IROC-Z, from time to time . Crunch.

I've went looking for 7th in mine before...well before there was a 7spd manual lol.

ssmike · 03-18-2015, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by oneredry

While this maybe true....

In my opinioin, when your drving a muscle car, one would think that MPG isn't as big of a deal as true muscle. Now, this is why we have v6's that way you get a combination of both. To me, MPG isn't that important over HP. I guess if you can afford a 35+ car, you can afford 3.00 - 3.50 a gallon (currently).

I agree! I was referring to the manufacturers having to be creative to conform to the new Café laws.

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Originally Posted by PoorMansCamaro

Car manufacturers aren't making muscle cars get better gas mileage because it's what people want. It's because of CAFE standards.

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Originally Posted by DrkPhx

I'm sure the M7 will be in the new Camaro. I wouldn't mind the auto rev match feature because you can turn it on and off. I've read a lot about the M7 which mostly seems to get favorable reviews (including rev match)except for the tighter gates because of the additional gear which takes getting used to.

However, the A8 is quicker ET wise, lighter than the outgoing A6 (better mpg as well) and is more popular (and $$$). The only bad knock I've read on the A8 is it's not good for heavy track use (GM recommends the M7 for track use at least on the ZO6). That's related to cooling which might not affect the new Camaro because it might have better cooling. I guess we'll have to find out.

By track use do you mean drag strip or road course? I haven't heard anything negative yet about the A8.

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03-18-2015, 11:34 AM	#15
IOMike Drives: 2022 F150, 87 Monte Carlo Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: MN Posts: 1,267	The 7 speed, in my opinion, will stay Corvette. Would be nice to see the active rev match and no lift shift make its way to the Camaro though. To be honest, that's the only way I'd consider a manual. I didn't grow up driving them and find them to be annoying in any circumstance other than banging gears at WOT.

03-18-2015, 12:53 PM	#18
Z/284ever Drives: A few Camaros Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 205	Another think to consider, a 7 speed trans weighs more than a 6 speed trans....

03-18-2015, 01:34 PM	#23
DrkPhx Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 / 2006 TB SS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: MN Posts: 2,250	I'm sure the M7 will be in the new Camaro. I wouldn't mind the auto rev match feature because you can turn it on and off. I've read a lot about the M7 which mostly seems to get favorable reviews (including rev match)except for the tighter gates because of the additional gear which takes getting used to. However, the A8 is quicker ET wise, lighter than the outgoing A6 (better mpg as well) and is more popular (and $$$). The only bad knock I've read on the A8 is it's not good for heavy track use (GM recommends the M7 for track use at least on the ZO6). That's related to cooling which might not affect the new Camaro because it might have better cooling. I guess we'll have to find out.

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