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Old 04-09-2014, 10:12 AM   #15
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I don't see it being able to hang with the z/28 on a track. It might beat it in a straight line . No way it will out break it.
Its getting carbon ceramic brakes, irs, a more advanced engine, and some wicked suspension..don't be too sure yet.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:14 AM   #16
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Its getting carbon ceramic brakes, irs, a more advanced engine, and some wicked suspension..don't be too sure yet.
More than likely all extra cost options.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:18 AM   #17
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most likely ZL1 competitor.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:23 AM   #18
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No chance that car will be near 50,000. May be sticker magic 54,000 MSRP but cant get it with out this or that option so starts at 62,000 and then good luck finding one on a lot for less then 65,000 most around 70,000. The Boss 302 was supposed to be 45,000 I think i saw one or 2 in the 4?,000 range but 90 percent were 52,000-58,000 and no wiggle room on price. GT500's were 58,000 to 70,000 depending out what wild stuff a dealer added. 2,000 dollar special coating to protect paint, 1,000 tire warranty, 1,000 under coating all non negotiable.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:26 AM   #19
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most likely ZL1 competitor.
Not really....the supercharged Shelby GT500 is the ZL1 competitor....the GT350 is being built for track and naturally aspirated.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:41 AM   #20
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There's no way it will come in at $50k. A premium GT is near $40k right now. Add in a different engine, carbon ceramic brakes, and better suspension for $10-12k? The brakes alone will cost that much. I'd bet it falls in the $65k range. You can bet they'll price it less than a Z/28. The question is, how much less.
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:49 AM   #21
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Hmmmmmm, a true Z/28 competitor that forces Chevy to up the ante at a lower price? What's not to love. Bring it! It's on, it's so f'in on.....
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:54 AM   #22
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But will they give you a track warranty like the Camaro? To be honest, the fact that GM has said the warranty will cover track use on the Z/28 is what impresses me the most. I can't think of a single car other then the Z/28 that is covered on the track.

And I think if Ford builds it right it could easily run with the Z/28. The new Mustang is already lighter then the Z/28. If they strip it down the weight gap will just increase. No more solid rear axle will close the gap preformance too. We're taking about a car that is lighter and has more power then the Z/28. If they can get the suspension set up right, put decent tires on it and through i a little flying car magic, It will be close.
Where did you find the mustang is lighter? All reports I have seen speculate a heavier curb weight due to the added weight of irs, it's wider than the previous generation and it has more "stuff" in it they any previous mustang. I believe one review was from edmunds first look.

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Old 04-09-2014, 10:57 AM   #23
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Ford gunning for the Z/28?

I'm a sceptic like most of you. If they can match the z28's performance for 25k less, wow! I have a feeling they can't. Specialized engine, brakes, suspension, wheels/tires bring the cost up when not as mass produced so that's why the z28 is so much more than any other camaro. The 350 isn't going to use run of the mill items to match the performance of the z. That's why I'm a sceptic.
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:06 AM   #24
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I'm going out on a limb here and speculate that the Shelby 350 'base' model will start at $50k and will go up against the 1LE. Slap all the expensive options on it such as the carbon ceramic brakes, the price goes up towards $70k and it starts getting into Z/28 territory.
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:08 AM   #25
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I'll be impressed if Ford can make a GT Mustang that actually sticks to the ground. That's one of the main reasons I went with the 1le, I didn't like the body movement and slip that all Mustangs seem to have. The power was there I just never felt like it was usable power (at least not for me).

But I love that Camaro and Mustang are competing with one another. That just means we, the customer, win
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:08 AM   #26
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I would be shocked to see Ford making over 500 HP from a 5 or 5.2 liter Coyote. It took CNC heads, a special intake and all sorts of upgrades to make 444 for the BOSS and it lost peak torque.

I do have to say, GM makes it easy for Ford to up the ante in the horsepower wars. GM builds an engine and that's it for the life of the engine. Ford constantly upgrades their engines for more power.
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:11 AM   #27
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I really just want a street legal 1/4 mile monster. Handling is great but power is what impresses most people, myself included. I've never had anyone ask me "how many Gs will it pull?" the question people ask is "How fast is it?"
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:16 AM   #28
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yeah..one of my friends got stats from Ford engineers at SEMA that said the cars over all weigh the same as they did in prev body styles. Still lighter than this pig of a camaro mind you.
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