[steelersgeek70]

I like the comfort and feel of my Camaro just as much as my ex's Mercedes C300. I thought the C300 was kinda stiff.

[Blu Ray]

you guys are BRUTAL, ok that was his opinion.....

[invaderzim]

Originally Posted by Ringo64

You're comparing a luxury car to a muscle car

For the love of.... The camaro is not a muscle car. its a pony car. Specially the guy's 2ls. Thanks to regulations nowadays the srt8 392 is as close to muscle car as one can get these days. The lack of true muscle cars doesn't bump up the pony car up a notch by default. Doesn't work that way. That being said, comparing the way different cars is crazy. Hell the wife's '13 fusion feels more comfortable than the camaro. Doesn't mean I'm going to trade cars with her anytime soon though...

[jcsuddre]

Originally Posted by Blu Ray

you guys are BRUTAL, ok that was his opinion.....

lol they are brutal I still think the camaro looks better than any car on the road for its price range and i would never trade it in unless i went to an ss. The feel of the ride was all i was talking about.

[super_sonic]

I had a 09 C300 as my DD, bought it brand new and traded it in January for my SS. Just way different cars. The MB is great at what it does, comfort with some power, good fuel mileage, great handling and ride, etc. The car is just no fun. That being said I loved that MB but wish I would have gotten my SS sooner

[RonnieG]

Originally Posted by Blu Ray

you guys are BRUTAL, ok that was his opinion.....

lol.. well hopefully he's got thick skin.. after all this is an American car forum, not a prius forum... maybe it's their way of showing tough love?

Originally Posted by invaderzim

For the love of.... The camaro is not a muscle car. its a pony car. Specially the guy's 2ls. Thanks to regulations nowadays the srt8 392 is as close to muscle car as one can get these days. The lack of true muscle cars doesn't bump up the pony car up a notch by default. Doesn't work that way. That being said, comparing the way different cars is crazy. Hell the wife's '13 fusion feels more comfortable than the camaro. Doesn't mean I'm going to trade cars with her anytime soon though...

curious.. what/who defines which car is a muscle car? what's the criteria? i'm guessing there's a certain line which divides the muscles from the ponies.. this is a serious question.. i'd like to know how people classify them

.:edit:.

The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines muscle cars as "any of a group of American-made 2-door sports coupes with powerful engines designed for high-performance driving."

[blahzay]

I went from a 2010 Camaro SS to a 2008 BMW 750I and I honestly cant wait to get into a 2014 Camaro. I HATE this luxury feel and all these useless gadgets! I need my pure muscle back!

[invaderzim]

Originally Posted by RonnieG

lol.. well hopefully he's got thick skin.. after all this is an American car forum, not a prius forum... maybe it's their way of showing tough love?



curious.. what/who defines which car is a muscle car? what's the criteria? i'm guessing there's a certain line which divides the muscles from the ponies.. this is a serious question.. i'd like to know how people classify them

.:edit:.

The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines muscle cars as "any of a group of American-made 2-door sports coupes with powerful engines designed for high-performance driving."

I always get a kick when people quite Wikipedia as fact. Anyways the challenger, mustang, firebird and camaro started the pony car class to go with the charger, torino, gto and chevelle ss muscle cars. Like I said, that those cars are gone, charger turned into a 4door sedan, didn't automatically bump the pony cars up a class...

Edit: I forgot the amc javelin to go with the rebel machine. I think Oldsmobile was the only one who didn't make a pony car to go along with the 442. Point is they don't "fall" in the pony car class. They created the class along with the mustang and the others cars mentioned...

[Chevrolet Customer Svc]

Originally Posted by blahzay

I went from a 2010 Camaro SS to a 2008 BMW 750I and I honestly cant wait to get into a 2014 Camaro. I HATE this luxury feel and all these useless gadgets! I need my pure muscle back!

We would like to see you back in PURE MUSCLE as well! Make sure test drive the 2014s when available!



William R.
Chevrolet Customer Care

[ChrisBlair]

Originally Posted by jcsuddre

My brother recently got a C class mercedes and I drove it for about an hour today. I have to say that I enjoy the feel of the ride better than my camaro. It is nowhere near as fast as mine but the drive is so much better in my opinion. I have come to notice that the camaro feels like a tank with the windows down even lol. Although it isnt a bad thing i like that tank feeling as well lol. Does anyone else feel this way?

if you have a chance, drive a 1930s Packard

very nice ride

Then drive an actual dinosaur-era muscle car from the 1960s and compare that to your Camaro

[nfl46]

Lol. I considered getting a used C Class, maybe around a '12, but naw, I want muscleeeee!

[102SS]

Some how I don't think the GM engineers used as Mercedes as one of the Camaro's benchmarks

[bkdamon]

Originally Posted by invaderzim

I always get a kick when people quite Wikipedia as fact. Anyways the challenger, mustang, firebird and camaro started the pony car class to go with the charger, torino, gto and chevelle ss muscle cars. Like I said, that those cars are gone, charger turned into a 4door sedan, didn't automatically bump the pony cars up a class...

Edit: I forgot the amc javelin to go with the rebel machine. I think Oldsmobile was the only one who didn't make a pony car to go along with the 442. Point is they don't "fall" in the pony car class. They created the class along with the mustang and the others cars mentioned...

Looks like he quoted Merriam- Webster, not wiki..
Regardless, his question still stands unanswered. What makes those cars you mentioned muscle cars? Horsepower? Chassis size? Cubic inches?

[invaderzim]

Originally Posted by bkdamon

Looks like he quoted Merriam- Webster, not wiki..
Regardless, his question still stands unanswered. What makes those cars you mentioned muscle cars? Horsepower? Chassis size? Cubic inches?

It looks that way. But the link to his quote is from wiki.. and that same page pretty much answered his question. The sentence after the one he quoted actually starts of with "a large v8 is fitted...." And to top it off the same page he quoted has a list a couple paragraphs down of manufacturers and their pony cars next to their muscle cars. Same cars I had mentioned. These aren't large v8s. A large v8 fitted into a midsize frame intended to go fast and straight is a muscle car. Descended from the hot rods. I don't count the Shelby or zl1 as a blower will make even a v4 fast. Like I said before the 392 challenger and the 7 litter z28 might arguably fall into muscle car category. But not a v6 camaro. Regulations did away with the large v8s. Just like they're about to do away with these v8s. True muscle cars are long gone.