05-22-2012, 03:47 PM | #1583 | |
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05-22-2012, 03:48 PM | #1584 |
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05-22-2012, 03:53 PM | #1585 | |
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I never said the ZL1 was going to be faster around the track did I? Let's be honest here. Less horsepower + more weight + IRS. Did you really expect the ZL1 to beat a GT500 at the strip? Even at the track the ZL1 is the heavier car and that will have an effect on it. Ford has done well with the SRA and it can make it handle. It can go either way. The reality though is that IRS + Magnetic ride is better for ride quality on a daily driver and pot hole ridden streets. |
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05-22-2012, 03:59 PM | #1586 |
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so you don't think a Z06 is faster than a Grand Sport unless they line up vs each other? Marketing BS is 100% right...you bought into it though, didn't you?
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05-22-2012, 04:00 PM | #1587 | |
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The auto industry is a very interesting business - and frankly, it's incestuous -- some people do happen to jump from company to company - and from supplier to supplier.
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05-22-2012, 04:01 PM | #1588 | |
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Curious what the GT500 times would be stock (w/o optional coolers, rear diff, and track pack)? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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05-22-2012, 04:03 PM | #1589 | |
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I don't know why anyone would want to road race with a blower car, I would rather have an NA car myself. We will have to wait for the head to head to be sure. |
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05-22-2012, 04:03 PM | #1590 | |
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The "driver's race" you speak of is between a 2012 Pony and ZL1 - not a 2013 Pony. It's no contest in a straight line. None. Sorry - those are the facts. Still doesn't take anything away form the ZL1 as it's a very nice car. It's also plenty fast - just not as fast through the quarter or top speed as the SHELBY. Last edited by SVT Murrocket; 05-22-2012 at 04:17 PM. |
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05-22-2012, 04:06 PM | #1591 |
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Not sure I understand either of your points. When did a GS and a Z06 become competitors? As for me buying into marketing BS, what are you talking about? If you are going to comment, please try to make sense.
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05-22-2012, 04:12 PM | #1592 |
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05-22-2012, 04:16 PM | #1593 | |
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You're entitled to your opinion but it pains me to see the following comment from anyone who drives a MUSCLE CAR - especially from one who drives one with the lineage of a ZL1..."The debate between these two cars, at least in my mind, has never been about 1/4 performance. Who really cares about that?" Really??? Who cares about that??? Wow... |
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05-22-2012, 04:19 PM | #1594 |
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It's not the 1960s anymore (and it hasn't been for many more years than I'd care to count) when "muscle cars" were judged mostly on straight line performance.
For many, today's high performance vehicles, which is how I'd classify the new ZL1, are measured by much more than straight line performance. For those individuals, today's high performance vehicles have to be very good at many things, not simply one thing. For many today, straight line performance in high performance vehicles comes second or third, in terms of priority. Many people expect their high performance vehicles to be extremely comfortable as a daily driver on today's less than perfectly maintained public roads, to be able to post impressive times on a road course without having to makes any modifications to the vehicles, and to be quick in a straight line, and in that order. For those who only care about straight line performance, the ZL1 may not be the right vehicle for them, but for those who want an overall high performance vehicle that will perform well in all aspects of performance driving and styling right off the showroom floor, the ZL1 may well be an excellent choice.
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05-22-2012, 04:24 PM | #1595 |
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05-22-2012, 04:31 PM | #1596 | |
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