[TOMS1SS]

Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

9 in Phoenix?!don't know the last time that happend

The national weather service says its 8.3 annually at Sky Harbor to exact. Another fun fact, no snow has hit the ground in down town Phoenix since 1939.

[AZCamaroFan]

i saw snowflakes here , i-17 and bell, december 6th 1998. but they melted instantly on the ground.

[TOMS1SS]

Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

i saw snowflakes here , i-17 and bell, december 6th 1998. but they melted instantly on the ground.

Same thing in Scottsdale on Frank Llyod Wright and Pima December 2001. Key emphasis on neither was downtown Phoenix. Apparently that stuff that fell last December was soft hail and not snow. This is photo is the only time I ever saw it below freezing in 10 years in the Valley:

[AZCamaroFan]

man it was freezing at the beginning of this year. seems like the last 4 years we've had more and more freezing temps in the winter

[TOMS1SS]

Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

man it was freezing at the beginning of this year. seems like the last 4 years we've had more and more freezing temps in the winter

It kills me because I run for an hour and half in the morning. Late November to late February its been 35 to 40 before the sun comes up. It will still be 55 to 70 in the day mind you.

[AZCamaroFan]

when i ride my bike, and it's actually easier to ride when it's 100+ than under 60

[bossbunny]

Originally Posted by TOMS1SS

Yeah it was pretty dry the first half of the year til the monsoons hit. Got dry enough that there was a 540,000 acre forest fire (Wallow Fire) about 50 miles east of Show Low extending into eastern New Mexico. That was the largest wild fire our state has ever had.

Well this one has burnt 33,000 acres in a day. We've NEVER seen fires like this in Texas. And today is supposed to be worse than yesterday. So who knows. 540? Thats nuts!

[AZCamaroFan]

we had big fires here a few months ago

[TOMS1SS]

Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

when i ride my bike, and it's actually easier to ride when it's 100+ than under 60

I agree lighter clothing and loose joints in the heat are easier to do than in the cold. It was 90 when I got up to run at 4:30 AM this morning, so long as the sun ain't out I'm good.

[sugar'n'spice]

It's pouring rain here today...it also rained a bit on the weekend at the car show too...

[bossbunny]

Originally Posted by sugar'n'spice

It's pouring rain here today...it also rained a bit on the weekend at the car show too...

I'm so jealous of everyone getting rain but us.

[AZCamaroFan]

hey joanne i was wondering how you were

what's skip up to today? shouldn't he be good and come join you for lunch?

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by badgebunny

Texas is on fire... Today is not going to be pretty.

Originally Posted by AZCamaroFan

i saw snowflakes here , i-17 and bell, december 6th 1998. but they melted instantly on the ground.

I was still living in Tucson when we has snow actually stick on Christmas day.

I'll never forget that...

[TOMS1SS]

Originally Posted by badgebunny

Well this one has burnt 33,000 acres in a day. And today is supposed to be worse than yesterday. So who knows. 540? Thats nuts!

Well you gotta keep in mind this area is almost completely devoid of human civilization. Really the only place that got threatened was Alpine with 256, Greer with 177 and the Spingerville/Eager area with less than 6,500. Basically they just put up fire lines near population centers and let the rest burn.