[KeepItGreasey]

Originally Posted by Ivas

Damn, dude, it's been years since the price was below 3 dollars here in Southern Calif. And that's for 91 shit gas.

Gas is most expensive right across the street from the refineries.

[KeepItGreasey]

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

Higher gas prices are the best thing that can happen for promoting innovation in alternative energy sources.

That's what THEY want us to believe.

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

Also, drilling in remote areas solves nothing in the long term. It might help prices for a few years, but it is very short-sighted. We can harm areas that may be the only true remaining wilderness areas and in a few years, we're right back where we started - looking for more. We need other sources of energy that are renewable.

You could say the exact same thing, no matter where the drilling is done. In California's eyes, EVERY PLACE is or was wild, and should remain or be returned to the wild... but that's not practical.

And who says that oil isn't renewable? THEM?

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

If there was an easy solution, we would have already found it and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

It's called crude oil. We've found it. Global warming? We just came off a cold summer, and got a shit ton of rain... breaking rainfall and snow pack records.

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

In the meantime, if you think gas prices are high in the US, go buy gas in Canada or Europe. It's a LOT more expensive there. We've had cheap gas for many many years and are a bit spoiled by it.

I don't buy it. Anyone can look up the price of gasoline in Canada/Europe and do the conversion. But can you tell me what the cost of living is and compare it to the United States of America? What the average household income is? Do these countries have refineries like we do? Do these countries have domestic oil supplies? How do their economies compare to ours? How about their environmental regulations? - I'm sure they don't compare at all, so we can't really compare what we have to pay in USD to what they pay - converted to USD.

You can't compare apples and feces.

[mikeSS]

Originally Posted by KeepItGreasey

That's what THEY want us to believe.



You could say the exact same thing, no matter where the drilling is done. In California's eyes, EVERY PLACE is or was wild, and should remain or be returned to the wild... but that's not practical.

And who says that oil isn't renewable? THEM?



It's called crude oil. We've found it. Global warming? We just came off a cold summer, and got a shit ton of rain... breaking rainfall and snow pack records.



I don't buy it. Anyone can look up the price of gasoline in Canada/Europe and do the conversion. But can you tell me what the cost of living is and compare it to the United States of America? What the average household income is? Do these countries have refineries like we do? Do these countries have domestic oil supplies? How do their economies compare to ours? How about their environmental regulations? - I'm sure they don't compare at all, so we can't really compare what we have to pay in USD to what they pay - converted to USD.

You can't compare apples and feces.

i like this guy

[harrington81]

It costs me $76 dollars to fill my 2ss up with (94 octane) here in Canada. I wish we had gas prices like your's.

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by mhood

I know, it's funny how some people believe that making extra plant food can change the climate.

[KeepItGreasey]

Originally Posted by ravensjeff

I'm so worried about the price of gas that I just bumped up to 650HP so I can get to work faster.

There are Yugo's out there for sale.

I do understand that the price of gas affects many people- I just think its a little funny hearing it from people who bought a 400+ HP muscle car.

It takes common sense to understand a simple concept.

I would rather pay $0.50 per gallon than $500.00 per gallon.

My 2010 SS gets twice the mileage my old vehicle gets.

If gasoline cost $0.01 per gallon, then I would only consider a car's mileage when it comes to how often I'd have to visit the gas station... for my own convenience.

If we all drove Yugos and had to pay $10 per month on gas and the price doubled... we would still be complaining.

[mhood]

Originally Posted by harrington81

I wish we had gas prices like your's.

...and I wish you'd make my $650 monthly health insurance premium payment for me.

[mhood]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

I know, it's funny how some people believe that making extra plant food can change the climate.

Huh?

[KeepItGreasey]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

I know, it's funny how some people believe that making extra plant food can change the climate.

My garden was SPECTACULAR this past year. Eight tomato plants produced over 40lbs of tomatoes, and the hops that I planted produced several pounds of cones the first year in the ground - without a fully established root system.

[Ivas]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

I heard you're going to be paying even more now that you've got your very own state run cap-n-tax system. I'm sure other states will follow.

Dude, I fill super bad about that jive every time I feel up.

[KeepItGreasey]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

I know, it's funny how some people believe that making extra plant food can change the climate.

I blame marathon runners, and people of certain ethnic groups and religious associations who commonly reproduce in excess for the increased carbon dioxide levels in our atmosphere.

[coolman]

Originally Posted by KeepItGreasey

I blame marathon runners, and people of certain ethnic groups and religious associations who commonly reproduce in excess for the increased carbon dioxide levels in our atmosphere.

The scrooge philosophy.

[KeepItGreasey]

Originally Posted by coolman

The scrooge philosophy.

Take it as a joke if you'd like... but really, these people produce at LEAST 2X as much CO2 as I do, just by living.

Even so, I do not believe that ONE of fifty states can put an end to "GLOBAL warming".

Or maybe I just don't understand, and should consult a geologist who has worked with oil companies who wants to feed people lines to justify the rise in price of gasoline - PLUS crap down our throats and tell us that it's a good thing because it will inspire us to develop alternate energies.

~ so says the guy who grew up in and lives in a stinky smog-filled city. Does anyone know why LA is known for dirty air? Well I'll tell you. It's because we generally do not get windy days, or even days where a strong breeze is common. If the air doesn't move, then whatever you put in it will stay right above you until the wind picks up.

[VR Baron]

Originally Posted by KeepItGreasey

Take it as a joke if you'd like... but really, these people produce at LEAST 2X as much CO2 as I do, just by living.

Even so, I do not believe that ONE of fifty states can put an end to "GLOBAL warming".

Or maybe I just don't understand, and should consult a geologist who has worked with oil companies who wants to feed people lines to justify the rise in price of gasoline - PLUS crap down our throats and tell us that it's a good thing because it will inspire us to develop alternate energies.

~ so says the guy who grew up in and lives in a stinky smog-filled city. Does anyone know why LA is known for dirty air? Well I'll tell you. It's because we generally do not get windy days, or even days where a strong breeze is common. If the air doesn't move, then whatever you put in it will stay right above you until the wind picks up.

And I have been here 55 years, believe me this air in L.A is the cleanest in that time and thats per the reports.I used to do sports when it was really bad and it was hard to breath and run at the same time! We must be doing something right even with all the excess people.