[Vega]

Originally Posted by EJWheelerIV

How dare GM even think about changing according to the way society is heading. No corporation should ever have a buisness plan that looks more than 6 months into the future.

V6 or V8... who cares. If you only care about sound go buy a 1997 Chevy Corsica and punch some holes in the muffler. Everyone will look and see what kind of a car makes that loud bad @ss sound.

Seriously people get with the times... the V8 has its place but it needs to improve or be left behind. I want performance in every aspect not just sound. If the best engine available is a modified v6 ill take it.... especially if it leaves the 8 bangers in the dust.

I feel like you're just saying this cause you own a V6 Camaro...

[n!ght r!der]

Originally Posted by EJWheelerIV

How dare GM even think about changing according to the way society is heading. No corporation should ever have a buisness plan that looks more than 6 months into the future.

V6 or V8... who cares. If you only care about sound go buy a 1997 Chevy Corsica and punch some holes in the muffler. Everyone will look and see what kind of a car makes that loud bad @ss sound.

Seriously people get with the times... the V8 has its place but it needs to improve or be left behind. I want performance in every aspect not just sound. If the best engine available is a modified v6 ill take it.... especially if it leaves the 8 bangers in the dust.

So if everybody starts eating dog food because of some scientific study that says its healthier than normal food, would you too eat it and sacrifice the taste of real food?

[Vega]

Originally Posted by Cmyskill

Well, I am kinda for both sides... I have a 2.0 liter AWD Talon that put down 755 hp and I truely love when the turbo kicks in. I say this but, and a big BUT at that, I LOVE the feel and sound of a V8 and I would think that Chevy knows this and will offer more options in the future for the Camaro. Look at the Skyline if you have never been for a ride in a real 6 cyl with a turbo that puts out more than 400 then you should find a friend that has one and you will not be disappointed. Trust Me.... If they offered both then I would drive the V8 and my wife the TV6 with the boost turned up...lol just my personal thoughts...

No offense but how much torque does that Talon put down??

[EJWheelerIV]

Originally Posted by truth411

Your not makeing any sense Because the supposed benifits of a TTV6 in comparison to a D.I. Ls3 are non-existant!! see post #41.

Not at the present moment... but as I implied earlier you need to look farther down the road than 6 months. There needs to be a vast improvement of the combustion engine. When gas climbs to $7 a gallon and all your getting is 24-28 mpg in your v8 and there is a modified V6 making 30s with very close performance outputs and similar costs. Its not hard to see where the majority will fall. Where the majority goes the money and the companies will follow.

Im just saying everyone needs to look at the whole picture not just my car sounds better than yours.

[nashstat]

Dumb question, but for all of us peeps who are not engine experts. Can someone please explain the advantages/disadvantages of a V6 Turbo vs naturally aspirated V8, assuming that they produce the same amount of hp and torque ?

Thanks!

[Nostromo]

Originally Posted by tsnow

If the other guys can make 412hp out of a 5L, I am sure GM can get 500hp out of a DI, variable valvetrain, 5.5-6.0L V8. With the future vette and camaro smaller and lighter 30mpg+ should be no problem. V8's in GM's performance cars will not be going away anytime soon.

I agree with you, 'tsnow'. The death of the V8 has been heralded going all the way back to '80. Unless they're outlawed, a possibility given the politicization of energy and resources, the V8 remains a capable platform for the foreseeable future. Even if V8s went out-of-production, there are literally millions available to be rebuilt.

[EJWheelerIV]

Originally Posted by n!ght r!der

So if everybody starts eating dog food because of some scientific study that says its healthier than normal food, would you too eat it and sacrifice the taste of real food?

If everyone said skydiving was better without a parachute would you jump? OF course not!... making that comparison doesnt fit at all.

[truth411]

Originally Posted by Cmyskill

Well, I am kinda for both sides... I have a 2.0 liter AWD Talon that put down 755 hp and I truely love when the turbo kicks in. I say this but, and a big BUT at that, I LOVE the feel and sound of a V8 and I would think that Chevy knows this and will offer more options in the future for the Camaro. Look at the Skyline if you have never been for a ride in a real 6 cyl with a turbo that puts out more than 400 then you should find a friend that has one and you will not be disappointed. Trust Me.... If they offered both then I would drive the V8 and my wife the TV6 with the boost turned up...lol just my personal thoughts...

Again, A TTV6 vette making 400+hp, will loose to the current 436hp LS3 vette. God help it when it come to the Gen V. Insiders say that the Gen V make 20-25% more hp per ltr. and more fuel efficient incomparison to the GenIV. A TTV6 would be equal or a downgrade in every possible way to a Gen V small block.

TTV6vs Gen V (theoretically)
Weight of the engine would be about equal
Gen V V8 would have more HP and Torque.
Fuel econmy would be about the same.
once turbos are added, I bet they would cost the same if not a bit more than the V8. The LS3 is only 6.5k.

All this assumes a TTv6 would be similar to the TTV6 seen in Jay leno's concept camaro. (425hp, 400ft-lbs)

[Cmyskill]

Originally Posted by Vega

No offense but how much torque does that Talon put down??

602 lb. torque at 11K rpms (2.1 SLR). more than most V8's but at a big time cost. that is why I am on both sides.... but I like when you push the gas on a V8 the power is there....

[EtoneTRD]

whar happened to the 5.5L that was gonna make like 450hp?

[Supercharged2SS]

if the V8 goes, so good bye to the muscle car. sad sad days.

[GLBL WMR]

Chances of the C7 Vette having a TTV6, even as an option, is zero. So let's just move on to the next thing to freak out about.

[King T]

Originally Posted by Reborn

The Corvette has been rumored of switching to midengine since before the C5 was introduced. Most likley will not happen. Also...they won't switch to a V6. GM and the Corvette Engineers know better then to put a V6 in the Corvette. A lot of people would be pissed off.

True. They already had their chance to make the Corvette mid-engine with the XP-882 (later Aerovette) concept, a 4-rotor(yes rotary) 420hp, gullwing Corvette meant to go head to head with Ford's Pantera back in 1973

[King T]

Originally Posted by Z28RockStar

OverMyDeadBody will I ever transport myself with anything other than a Vtwin (Harley/scooter) or a V8 (cage/car). Same as my fire arms (GUNS) views, . . . . .from my dead cold hands.



lol, . . . srrsly tho.

Originally Posted by InvaderMoose

This thread reminds me of this shirt


Really, I say hell to the environment as long as I get to listen to the roar of a v8.

I like that shirt!