[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by fielderLS3

Sure, a base Challenger R/T and base 1SS Camaro are about the same price, but they are by no means similarly equipped or in the same league performance wise. You want the 6-speed tranny, that costs more. You want a limited slip rear end, that costs more. Any color besides black, silver, and while, that costs more. Driver info center, that costs more. Satellite radio, that costs more. 20 inch wheels, that costs more. Remote start, that costs more. Summer tires, not available. Better than a Caravan brakes, not available. Handling, not even close.

Once you check all the option boxes to equip a Challenger with everything the Camaro has standard, you are at least $5000 above the Camaro, and you still have lousy brakes, all season tires, inferior handling dynamics, and come up over 50 horsepower short with more weight. So how is the Challenger in line with a Camaro or Mustang performance or value-wise?

no one buys a challenger for bang for the buck.....the mustang has always been bang for the buck. they produce very little per year and will sell them at a premium. It has worked so far. and all 3 are very close in performance.

and loaded vs loaded they are pretty equal in price.

[ViperTomcat]

Originally Posted by fielderLS3

Sure, a base Challenger R/T and base 1SS Camaro are about the same price, but they are by no means similarly equipped or in the same league performance wise. You want the 6-speed tranny, that costs more. You want a limited slip rear end, that costs more. Any color besides black, silver, and while, that costs more. Driver info center, that costs more. Satellite radio, that costs more. 20 inch wheels, that costs more. Remote start, that costs more. Summer tires, not available. Better than a Caravan brakes, not available. Handling, not even close.

Once you check all the option boxes to equip a Challenger with everything the Camaro has standard, you are at least $5000 above the Camaro, and you still have lousy brakes, all season tires, inferior handling dynamics, and come up over 50 horsepower short with more weight. So how is the Challenger in line with a Camaro or Mustang performance or value-wise?

Ok..I had a big post to argue you..but I just couldnt bother because neither of us is going to convince the other.

My R/T has posted low 13 second times and is nimble enough to anything except extreme handling that i throw at it on the road.


I love my car, it is every bit as good as a Camaro 1SS L99 A6 and was over a thousand dollars cheaper. With the thousand dollars saved I can get a HDD based entertainment system and a cat back exhaust.

Thanks

[GrnMchin]

Chevy is my first love, but between Dodge and Ford.. Dodge got my vote. I drive Fords at work and have never really care for them. Dodge since I have own two and still own one is the better alternative to GM IMO.

[SuperSnake]

than why is mopar owned by fiat??? I am pretty sure that fiat is italian and that would make mopar aka dodge, chrysler and jeep. So if they are owned by fiat that sure makes them a damn fiat

[GrnMchin]

See to me this thread has lived it's life move on and stop the nonsense. Everyone can have a different opinion and leave it at that....

[ViperTomcat]

Originally Posted by SuperSnake

than why is mopar owned by fiat??? I am pretty sure that fiat is italian and that would make mopar aka dodge, chrysler and jeep. So if they are owned by fiat that sure makes them a damn fiat

Fiat has less than a 30% stake in Chrysler. It isnt "owned" by Fiat at all.

When sales reach a point where Chrysler is no longer in debt Fiat can then increase their share holdings.

Thats like saying because the US government technically has a majority share holder position of GM that the government owns GM..when it isnt so simple.

[SuperSnake]

Actually GM paid off the government 5 years ahead of times

[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by SuperSnake

Actually GM paid off the government 5 years ahead of times

let's not get into that.

[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by ViperTomcat

Fiat has less than a 30% stake in Chrysler. It isnt "owned" by Fiat at all.

When sales reach a point where Chrysler is no longer in debt Fiat can then increase their share holdings.

Thats like saying because the US government technically has a majority share holder position of GM that the government owns GM..when it isnt so simple.

+10000000000000


get your facts straight supersnake

[GrnMchin]

[SuperSnake]

My facts are straight look it up
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[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by SuperSnake

My facts are straight look it up
Most
Of
Parts
Are
Rebuilt

wow after thism mods plaease close this thread....

[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by GrnMchin

See to me this thread has lived it's life move on and stop the nonsense. Everyone can have a different opinion and leave it at that....

yea unless someone is acting like an opinion is fact.

oh well hopefully this thread doesnt live much longer. thanks for your post. It was actually one of the good ones.

[mjf6866]

Originally Posted by fielderLS3

So how is the Challenger in line with a Camaro or Mustang performance or value-wise?

here are just a couple REAL WORLD videos that show how its "in line with a Camaro performance wise." not to say this is the norm because we all know the SS 6-speed has the HP advantage. the A6 is MUCH closer, however. it is to say that its "in-line" just fine.