[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by GrandPrixGXP

I just love how I have my heart set on a Camaro 2LT 2012 model, and I'm saving as much money as possible to get it...and all of you guys are carrying on about how much the current Camaro sucks compared with something you haven't even seen, and of course, you continue to carry on about how a V6 is a piece of s#&t for a Camaro.

Maybe they'll come out with something the size of a Go Kart, and tell you it has a V-12 in it, and you'll all be happy in 2015??

Just change the cheap feel of the plastic on the interior of the 2012, and tell me when I can order mine, thank you.

The 2004 Malibu sucked compared to the 2008 model.

The 2003 CTS sucked compared to the 2008 model.

The 1995 Cavalier REALLY sucked compared to the 2005 Cobalt which REALLY sucked compared to the 2011 Cruze.

And yes, I would go as far as to say that the 5th gen will suck when compared to the 6th gen.

That's just what the name of the game in this industry is. If your new product isn't as good or better than the old one, you'll get left behind very quickly.

[ssmike]

Originally Posted by daveagogo1

Everything that looks wrong? Really? That's pretty interesting considering the fact that i personally witnessed the utter shock and awe of the design of the new Camaro being unveiled. I also remember vividly sitting in the theatre watching Transformers and hearing and seeing the audience go insane when the new Camaro made it's appearance on screen. The design has won countless awards and acclaim worldwide. I guarantee many people bought this car simply for the looks of it.

You might see things you like on a 6th gen or even prefer but, i honestly believe the masses and myself see everything that is right about the 5th gen. I fell in love with this car the day it was unveiled and i have not stopped smiling since i drove mine off the lot DEC 31ST 2010. I waited a long time for this car for all the things i see right about it. Makes it even sweeter when i hit the pedal and hear that V8 growl, the front end lift a bit, the rear digs in and blam she is gone.

I damn near lost it when we were signing the papers. I put my wife and daughters first and rarely buy anything for myself. My wife told me i deserved this car and that i should have what i want, we can afford it and you only live once and tomorrow may never come.

I tell you what brother. I have not stopped smiling since i got this beast. Every single time i'm sitting at a light and i notice people staring at my ride i can't help but think this is the baddest ride on the road and she is all mine.

Couldn't agree with you more brother!

[Number 3]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

The 2004 Malibu sucked compared to the 2008 model.

The 2003 CTS sucked compared to the 2008 model.

The 1995 Cavalier REALLY sucked compared to the 2005 Cobalt which REALLY sucked compared to the 2011 Cruze.

And yes, I would go as far as to say that the 5th gen will suck when compared to the 6th gen.

That's just what the name of the game in this industry is. If your new product isn't as good or better than the old one, you'll get left behind very quickly.

Fen you just said GM products suck......what the?????

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by Number 3

Fen you just said GM products suck......what the?????

Well if you guys would quit making me drool uncontrollably over new products then we wouldn't have this problem now would we?

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by chain777

I think you mean OHV.

I did. Thank you for catching it.

Originally Posted by Number 3

Fen you just said GM products suck......what the?????

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Well if you guys would quit making me drool uncontrollably over new products then we wouldn't have this problem now would we?

You're right...but what if we decided to think positively?

The 2008 Malibu was great compared to the 2004 model.

The 2008 CTS was amazing compared to the 2003 model.

The 2011 Cruze was leaps ahead of the 2005 Cobalt which was a HUGE improvement over the 1995 Cavalier.

And yes, I would go as far as to say that the 6th gen will be A LOT better than the 5th gen.


See how much better that sounds?

[rez333]

Originally Posted by daveagogo1

Everything that looks wrong? Really? That's pretty interesting considering the fact that i personally witnessed the utter shock and awe of the design of the new Camaro being unveiled. I also remember vividly sitting in the theatre watching Transformers and hearing and seeing the audience go insane when the new Camaro made it's appearance on screen. The design has won countless awards and acclaim worldwide. I guarantee many people bought this car simply for the looks of it.

everyone went nuts over KITT from Knight Rider 25 years ago, but do they go ga-ga over it now? I guarantee you that when the gen6 comes out, it WILL make your car look old.

I do however believe that the Z28 will go on to become a design classic over time. The base SS/V6 don't look hot enough compared with the Z28 which looks closer to the Transformers prototype than the higher and more sedate looking SS/V6. A lowered stance makes the Camaro look awesome, but the regular height makes the car look too much like a Chrysler 300 due to the high sidewalls (and the Chrysler 300 sure looks dated now right?).

[Cam#7]

Originally Posted by rez333

everyone went nuts over KITT from Knight Rider 25 years ago, but do they go ga-ga over it now? I guarantee you that when the gen6 comes out, it WILL make your car look old.

The base SS/V6 don't look hot enough compared with the Z28

If you go to any car show that has a number of Camaros. The guy with the biggest smile on his face is '69 Camaro owner with a 350 / 4 speed that enjoys driving his car. The Gen5 cars have won many awards. In 20 or 30 years they all will be highly regarded like the Gen1 cars are now and how the 55-57 Chevys were in the 70's.

We are driving living legends !!!!!!!!!!

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Cam#7

If you go to any car show that has a number of Camaros. The guy with the biggest smile on his face is '69 Camaro owner with a 350 / 4 speed that enjoys driving his car. The Gen5 cars have won many awards. In 20 or 30 years they all will be highly regarded like the Gen1 cars are now and how the 55-57 Chevys were in the 70's.

We are driving living legends !!!!!!!!!!

Camaros age like Corvettes...or fine wine . You can tell they're early models, but their age doesn't make the car look bad at all.

[Bad70supreme]

You guys sticking up for a v6 in a SS is The day an SS comes with a V6 I am done with GM! They made this car as a throw back to the old days when camaro ment somthing! To drive somthing mean, american, and a loud ass american made V8!!!!! Thats all there is to it, Ill keep my 5th gen and good luck to GM because thats when you will see camaro die AGAIN!!!! Will this happen, most likely not!

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

You guys sticking up for a v6 in a SS is The day an SS comes with a V6 I am done with GM! They made this car as a throw back to the old days when camaro ment somthing! To drive somthing mean, american, and a loud ass american made V8!!!!! Thats all there is to it, Ill keep my 5th gen and good luck to GM because thats when you will see camaro die AGAIN!!!! Will this happen, most likely not!

omg onoz!!!1!

Alpha can support a V8...what do you think is going into the V-series ATS and 3rd gen CTS?

[Bad70supreme]

Thats why I said it wont happen, I am pretty sure we will still have a v8. I was talking about these guys sticking up for the v6 thing, thats crazy talk!

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Bad70supreme

You guys sticking up for a v6 in a SS is The day an SS comes with a V6 I am done with GM! They made this car as a throw back to the old days when camaro ment somthing! To drive somthing mean, american, and a loud ass american made V8!!!!! Thats all there is to it, Ill keep my 5th gen and good luck to GM because thats when you will see camaro die AGAIN!!!! Will this happen, most likely not!

It seems you don't quite understand the context in which the auto industry finds itself in, today....

This generation Camaro was, in fact, a step forward...by building on the heritage of Camaro. It was not a throwback, minus some cues from past Camaros. Camaro still means something...and it's up to each individual to give it meaning...but and old French/English dictionary says it means "friend, pal, or comrade."

If an SS Camaro is ever equipped with a V6...you can be darn sure it NEEDED to be done to ensure the Camaro's survival as a nameplate in light of more stringent emissions and fuel economy standards. If it's ever equipped with a V6, chances are it'll still be able to melt your face off (V6 doesn't mean less performance, anymore). Finally...if there's a V6 SS...who's to say there won't be another model in the lineup that has a V8?

To each his own, but I'd request you give the idea a chance before getting angry over nothing.

[rez333]

Originally Posted by Cam#7

If you go to any car show that has a number of Camaros. The guy with the biggest smile on his face is '69 Camaro owner with a 350 / 4 speed that enjoys driving his car. The Gen5 cars have won many awards. In 20 or 30 years they all will be highly regarded like the Gen1 cars are now and how the 55-57 Chevys were in the 70's.

We are driving living legends !!!!!!!!!!

Uh.. I'm pretty sure everyone in a car show has a big smile on their face with regards to their own car. I sense just a tad of rose-tinting in your horn-rimmed glasses.

As for the Gen1 cars - there's no comparison - they were the originals. The Gen5 may or may not achieve "legendary" status because as many have praised it when it FIRST came out, as many have also criticized it after that. Legendary cars usually don't have such inconsistency in judgment.

Take the recent Ford Thunderbird for example:
http://www.canadiandriver.com/2002/0...hunderbird.htm

Note the emotional excitement of the reviewer despite the ergonomic short-comings of the car? Sound familiar? So where is the T-Bird now? I bet that the inconsistency of the car's reviews killed it.

Now whilst Camaro buyers tend to be ignoring the recent reviews of the Camaro and are still buying the Camaro in droves, nevertheless inconsistency of reviews can kill the likability of a car once the newer models comes along. Based on comments from people who have seen the Gen6 - I'm willing to bet that the Gen6 is the perfect Camaro - and if that's the case, you WILL forget the gen5 - that's just the way it goes.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by rez333

I'm willing to bet that the Gen6 is the perfect Camaro - and if that's the case, you WILL forget the gen5 - that's just the way it goes.

I can tell ya right now, there's no such thing as "perfect". Better, maybe...but then to whose eyes?

Like I said earlier...each Camaro was successively better in many ways than its predecessor. But none have been forgotten...that's one of the traits of an American Icon.

No matter what they do with the sixth gen...people LOVE this car. There's no disputing that...regardless of what a few toilet-paper rolls have to say about it.

From the reaction at the concept unveiling to the stares on the street, even now after 2 years of production the cars design is absolutely timeless. Besides, this was the generation that ushered the Camaro back to life, and it will never be forgotten, if only for that reason.