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Old Yesterday, 11:25 AM   #197
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If it has world class performance and exciting styling coupled with better utility and is a car that you would consider buying does it really matter if it's called a Camaro or an Impala? Would you NOT buy it because it has 2 extra doors and the "wrong" name?
It's GM's branding and reputation that they have built to exploit, squander, or capitalize upon. They have gone to great effort and expense to make it what it is and has been. I still cringe at the sight of the Mustang EV crossover thing when i see one, with the signature tail lights and pony logo. What was the point of remaining relatively consistent for nearly 60 years? Why not call it "Silverado" since that has even more recognition and greater sales numbers?
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Old Yesterday, 12:21 PM   #198
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I highlighted what sets you apart from a vast majority of the driving public. I have shown countless numbers of friends and relatives how to set their mirrors to eliminate blindspots. Most of them have gone back to the "normal" way of setting their mirrors. The way where when you look in the mirror you see the side of your own car. THAT is the type of person Chevrolet still needs to sell to. That is the type of person that will sit in the car in the showroom and say "Wow...blindspot. This falls off my shopping list".
There haven't been many things in my life that surprised me more than the unexpected truth of this statement.

Except for my youngest son who just about to reach driving age, literally everyone else in my family "gravitated" back to the wrong mirror setting that lets them see the sides of their vehicle. This happens even after several times of me showing them how this isn't helpful, and how other vehicles on the road will "travel" from one side mirror into the rearview (or vice versa) with the correct settings, meaning they can always see it no matter the side mirror blindspots.

On top of that, the 6th gen Camaro had blind spot monitoring and auto mirror tilt down in reverse, so no excuse for not being able to park when backing into a space.

Absolutely dumbfounding, but I agree to James's point that GM wouldn't want to lose out on these customers. It's a perception game, unfortunately.
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Old Yesterday, 01:25 PM   #199
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I am going to use a baseball analogy here

Why swing for the fences when a few singles will get you the same score?

Sure the homer wows the crowd but how many strikeouts did you have trying to get it?

The singles improve the batting average increase confidence and create a team feeling over individual performance.

Heads roll when you don't put winners on the field and jobs are lost when you take expensive swings at the plate and strike out.

No one wants to lose a great job in the major leagues to ride the busses in the minors.
I understand your point. It how the mfg (GM) would look at it, or someone that closely aligns with how the mfg would approach this.

I have my own opinions on the matter, which are from a consumer/buyers perspective.

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On top of that, the 6th gen Camaro had blind spot monitoring and auto mirror tilt down in reverse, so no excuse for not being able to park when backing into a space.
They weren't standard features.
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Old Yesterday, 01:26 PM   #200
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I highlighted what sets you apart from a vast majority of the driving public. I have shown countless numbers of friends and relatives how to set their mirrors to eliminate blindspots. Most of them have gone back to the "normal" way of setting their mirrors. The way where when you look in the mirror you see the side of your own car. THAT is the type of person Chevrolet still needs to sell to. That is the type of person that will sit in the car in the showroom and say "Wow...blindspot. This falls off my shopping list". They will, as you point out, not give the car a fair shake. So GM either needs to take that excuse away from them (significantly improve visibility) or just deal with the fact that a large number of potential buyers will walk away from the car over something that they (shoppers) can easily correct.

Crazy what setting your mirrors correctly will do. I do not have blind spot monitoring or anything like that all I have is a back up camera. In the six years of owning my Camaro since new I have not had a single issue with visibility. People then get mad at me because my experience with the Camaro does not fit their narrative. I have said it in another social media group if you cannot handle the Camaro in this regard then you probably cannot handle that dream car you want because the ones I see on peoples list have the same or worse visibility. Yeah GM will probably have to adjust to people who don't do things properly.
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Old Yesterday, 08:20 PM   #201
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Crazy what setting your mirrors correctly will do. I do not have blind spot monitoring or anything like that all I have is a back up camera. In the six years of owning my Camaro since new I have not had a single issue with visibility. People then get mad at me because my experience with the Camaro does not fit their narrative. I have said it in another social media group if you cannot handle the Camaro in this regard then you probably cannot handle that dream car you want because the ones I see on peoples list have the same or worse visibility. Yeah GM will probably have to adjust to people who don't do things properly.
I’ll go a step further and be adamant that anyone who has problem seeing out of the Camaro even without Blindspot monitoring really should not be driving. I said the quiet part out loud I mean it.

I will say that to anybody’s face who has a problem with that if you cannot see out of the Camaro turn in your drivers license
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Old Today, 01:17 AM   #202
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If it has world class performance and exciting styling coupled with better utility and is a car that you would consider buying does it really matter if it's called a Camaro or an Impala? Would you NOT buy it because it has 2 extra doors and the "wrong" name?
I know you were not asking me, but as someone who will be in the market in the next year or so, I would not buy a camaro with 4 doors. I will heavily consider a new camaro with the new ls6 engine. Otherwise, no sweat, I will just go the route of c8 vette.
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