[2SS Capt]

Originally Posted by jamala00

Still Looking...

All tough I think it's not ever going to happen...

Your dilemma is exactly why I most likely won't sell my Camaro... I have it pretty much exactly where I want it, but I almost never drive it (850 miles in 2025), and every time I say I might sell it my wife says "HELL NO", she tells me, "You'll regret it because you can't get another one the way you want it and that will piss you off to no end..." So I sit on it, maybe foolishly, maybe not, but when I walk out in my garage, the car that I always wanted is sitting there, if for nothing more than to look at and admire... Even if it is a expensive thing to do...

I wish you the best of luck in your search, however HBM was only a 3 year color from 16-18, so finding a mint condition with your specs is becoming increasingly, extremely unlikely (but I'm quite sure you are aware of that)...

(If HBM was available in 2020, I'm fairly certain my 2020 2SS would be HBM instead of Shadow Gray Metallic...) It's a great color...

[jamala00]

Originally Posted by 2SS Capt

Your dilemma is exactly why I most likely won't sell my Camaro... I have it pretty much exactly where I want it, but I almost never drive it (850 miles in 2025), and every time I say I might sell it my wife says "HELL NO", she tells me, "You'll regret it because you can't get another one the way you want it and that will piss you off to no end..." So I sit on it, maybe foolishly, maybe not, but when I walk out in my garage, the car that I always wanted is sitting there, if for nothing more than to look at and admire... Even if it is a expensive thing to do...

I wish you the best of luck in your search, however HBM was only a 3 year color from 16-18, so finding a mint condition with your specs is becoming increasingly, extremely unlikely (but I'm quite sure you are aware of that)...

(If HBM was available in 2020, I'm fairly certain my 2020 2SS would be HBM instead of Shadow Gray Metallic...) It's a great color...

It's EXACTLY what my wife told me and I didn't listen.

[jamala00]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Don't give up hope, brother. (I'd let go of some requirements and broaden the search, though. For example, garnet red is a beautiful, royal color, too, just saying .)

Well, if I let go of the sunroof requirement I found a 1 owner 2017 that has all the other options... $38k just seems really steep. I add TTL, Shipping, and by the time I get my MRRs, Red Brembos, etc... I'm mid to upper 40s for something I sold last June for $30k... Ugg that is hard to swallow

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by jamala00

Well, if I let go of the sunroof requirement I found a 1 owner 2017 that has all the other options... $38k just seems really steep. I add TTL, Shipping, and by the time I get my MRRs, Red Brembos, etc... I'm mid to upper 40s for something I sold last June for $30k... Ugg that is hard to swallow

Well first of all, you're still dwelling on that mistake. Your 2016 is gone and you let it go for a relatively low price, sure, but it's a done deal, forget about it, don't let emotions sway your purchase decision either way.

Not worrying about a sunroof is a good move, the reverse mohawk roofline looks fantastic and you'd get structural rigidity plus guaranteed no leaks or failures from the sunroof mechanism.

This one looks like a no-option 2SS babied and kept at very low mileage, and I think MSRP was $42,000 back then, so you're looking at buying a 9-year old car essentially for the same price, no warranty whatsoever. Not a good deal, especially since trade-in values for the same car are in the low or mid-20s...

Are you planning any other mods than those you already had? Say, power adders, suspension enhancements...?

[jamala00]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Well first of all, you're still dwelling on that mistake. Your 2016 is gone and you let it go for a relatively low price, sure, but it's a done deal, forget about it, don't let emotions sway your purchase decision either way.

Not worrying about a sunroof is a good move, the reverse mohawk roofline looks fantastic and you'd get structural rigidity plus guaranteed no leaks or failures from the sunroof mechanism.

This one looks like a no-option 2SS babied and kept at very low mileage, and I think MSRP was $42,000 back then, so you're looking at buying a 9-year old car essentially for the same price, no warranty whatsoever. Not a good deal, especially since trade-in values for the same car are in the low or mid-20s...

Are you planning any other mods than those you already had? Say, power adders, suspension enhancements...?

They sent me the build sheet for that one. It's a loaded 2SS. It has NPP, Mag Ride... Just no sunroof. No, I'm not looking at any other modes.. Just what I had. I think the MSRP on that was around $46? I could ask them if I could get the original window sticker


To: Aiden Capps <acapps@berglundcars.com>
Subject: 2017 Camaro Build Sheet

Here is your build
ehicle Information
VIN: 1G1FH1R7XH0116173
Model: 1AK37-2017 CAMARO 2SS
Service Contracts and Subscriptions: No
Branded Title: No
Warranty Block: No
PDI Status: Yes
Order Type: 70 - RETAIL - STOCK
Mobile Service Plus: No
Field Actions: 0 Open
Vehicle Build
Model: 1AK37 - 2017 CAMARO 2SS
Order Number: TMPKP4
Gross Vehicle Weight: 2,035
Build Date: 07/27/2016
Build Plant: 0

Option Codes
*IVH is not the definitive source of GM Vehicle RPO information and is intended for service reference only. Should there be any questions about the vehicle's original build or RPO information please refer to the original vehicle invoice or window sticker.
1SZ - OPTION PACKAGE DISCOUNT
2SS - BASE EQUIPMENT PACKAGE
4AA - INTERIOR TRIM
56S - WHEELS, 20" BRIGHT SILVER - PAINTED ALUMINUM
5A7 - SPARE WHEEL-NONE
6X1 - COMPONENT
7X1 - COMPONENT
8BB - COMPONENT
9BB - COMPONENT
9L3 - SPARE TIRE - NONE
A45 - MEMORY PACKAGE, DRIVER SEAT & OUTSIDE MIRRORS
A50 - SEATS, FRONT SPORT BUCKET
AKQ - 6-WAY POWER PASSENGER SEAT
AL0 - AIRBAG SENSING SYSTEM , PASSENGER
AM7 - REAR SEAT, FOLDING
AT8 - REAR CHILD SEAT LATCH SYSTEM
ATH - KEYLESS OPEN AND START
AV3 - 8-WAY POWER DRIVER SEAT
AXJ - PASSENGER CAR
AYG - AIR BAGS, DRIVER AND FRONT PASSENGER DUAL-STAGE FRONTAL, THORAX SIDE-IMPACT, KNEE AND HEAD CURTAIN SIDE-IMPACT FOR FRONT AND REAR POSITIONS
B34 - FLOOR MATS, FRONT
B7G - SILL PLATES, ILLUMINATED
BTV - REMOTE VEHICLE START
C70 - LIGHTING, INTERIOR SPECTRUM
CJ2 - AIR CONDITIONING, DUAL ZONE CLIMATE CONTROL
D5Z - SPOILER, REAR, STANCHION
DCP - PROCESSING DIRECTIONS & CONNECTIONS SERVICE PACKAGE
DD1 - POWER OUTSIDE MIRRORS DRIVER SIDE AUTO DIMMING
DD8 - INSIDE REARVIEW MIRROR, AUTO DIMMING
EF7 - COUNTRY UNITED STATE OF AMERICA
F55 - MAGNETIC RIDE CONTROL
FE3 - PERFORMANCE SUSPENSION
FJW - VEHICLE FUEL GASOLINE
G80 - LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIAL
GD1 - HYPER BLUE METALLIC
H0Y - JET BLACK * INTERIOR TRIM
HRE - REAR AXLE, 2.77 RATIO
I17 - ENGINEERING YEAR 2017
IO6 - CHEVROLET MYLINK AUDIO SYSTEM W/NAVIGATION, 8" DIAGONAL TOUCHSCREEN
J6G - BREMBO PERFORMANCE BRAKES, 4 PISTON FRONT & REAR
J77 - BRAKE, ELECTRONIC PARKING
K4C - WIRELESS DEVICE CHARGING
KA1 - DRIVER & FRONT PASSENGE HEATED SEATS
KB7 - MANUAL PADDLESHIFT CONTROLS
KC4 - ENGINE OIL COOLER
KD1 - COOLER, TRANSMISSION OIL
KNR - COOLER, REAR DIFFERENTIAL
KQV - SEATS, VENTILATED DRIVER AND FRONT PASSENGER
KRV - REFRIGERANT
LAL - LANSING PLANT CODE
LT1 - ENGINE, 6.2L V8 DI
M5U - TRANSMISSION, 8-SPD AUTOMATIC
M97 - BRAKE/TRANS SHIFT INTERLOCK
MAH - MARKETING AREA NORTH AMERICA
MX0 - 8-SPD AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION W/REMOTE VEHICLE START
NC7 - FEDERAL EMISSION OVERRIDE
NE1 - 50-STATE EMISSIONS
NKC - NOISE CONTROL SYSTEM
NP5 - LEATHER WRAP STEERING WHEEL
NPP - EXHAUST, DUAL MODE PERFORMANCE
NUE - EMISSION SYTEM
NV9 - PWR STEERING, ELECTRIC
R0F - TIRES, RUN FLAT, SUMMER ONLY
R8J - LGR-ID CAMARO COUPE MODELS
R9N - VOMS PROCESSING OPTION
SBF - SAFETY BELTS
SLM - STOCK ORDERS
T3S - DAYTIME RUNNING LAMPS
T4F - HEADLAMPS, HID WITH LED SIGNATURE
T61 - DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS
TDM - TEEN DRIVER
U2K - XM RADIO + SERVICE SUBSCRIPTION SOLD SEPARATELY BY SIRIUSXM AFTER 12 MTHS
U77 - ANTENNA, ROOF MOUNTED
U80 - COMPASS DISPLAY
UD7 - REAR PARK ASSIST
UE1 - ONSTAR(R)
UFG - REAR CROSS TRAFFIC ALERT
UG1 - UNIVERSAL HOME REMOTE
UHS - DRIVER INFORMATION CENTER, 8" DIAGONAL MULTI-COLOR DISPLAY
UKC - SIDE BLIND ZONE ALERT
UMN - SPEEDOMETER
UPG - BLUETOOTH FOR PHONE
UQA - AUDIO SYSTEM- PREMIUM, BOSE
UST - USB PORTS
UV6 - HEAD-UP DISPLAY
UVC - REAR VISION CAMERA
UVD - HEATED STEERING WHEEL
V03 - COOLING SYSTEM, EXTRA CAPACITY
V18 - COOLER, ENGINE COOLANT
V8D - VEHICLE STATEMENT US
VK3 - FRONT LICENSE PLATE BRACKET
VRG - VAA/COMPONENT REL COCKPIT
VRH - VAA/COMPONENT REL STEERING COLUMN
VRJ - VAA/COMPONENT REL POWERTRAIN DRESS
VRK - VAA/COMPONENT REL ROOF TRIM
VRL - VAA/COMPONENT REL FRONT HORIZONTAL SUSPENSION
VRM - VAA/COMPONENT REL FRONT VERTICAL SUSPENSION
VRN - VAA/COMPONENT REL REAR SUSPENSION
VRR - COMPONENT
VT7 - OWNERS MANUAL
VV4 - 4G LTE WI-FI(R) HOTSPOT WITH LIMITED DATA TRIAL AND MORE. (SUBJECT TO TERMS SEE ONSTAR.COM)
VY7 - LEATHER WRAPPED SHIFT KNOB
W2D - CARGO NET (DEALER INSTALLED)
WMH - VIN MODEL YEAR 2017
XL8 - FREQUENCIES RATING 433 MHZ
YM8 - IDENTIFICATION - LPO

[arpad_m]

Aha, it does have F55 and NPP, so that does bring the MSRP to around $46k. The Carfax report didn't show the window sticker unfortunately.

It's a very early 2017 build though, making the car almost 10 years old. No record of any transmission work, so you'll likely have to deal with the shudder. MRC shocks have a shorter than normal lifespan, too... granted, though, this would have affected your previous car as well.

At the end of the day I'm just mulling over some facts here, it's your money and your call, though

[jamala00]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Aha, it does have F55 and NPP, so that does bring the MSRP to around $46k. The Carfax report didn't show the window sticker unfortunately.

It's a very early 2017 build though, making the car almost 10 years old. No record of any transmission work, so you'll likely have to deal with the shudder. MRC shocks have a shorter than normal lifespan, too... granted, though, this would have affected your previous car as well.

At the end of the day I'm just mulling over some facts here, it's your money and your call, though

No... I hear you and I appriciate the input.. trust me...

I'm beginning to think this would be a better purchase. Only thing it doesn't have it the MRR 1LE wheels

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Well first of all, you're still dwelling on that mistake. Your 2016 is gone and you let it go for a relatively low price, sure, but it's a done deal, forget about it, don't let emotions sway your purchase decision either way.

Not worrying about a sunroof is a good move, the reverse mohawk roofline looks fantastic and you'd get structural rigidity plus guaranteed no leaks or failures from the sunroof mechanism.

That is the best advise I have ever read on the internet.

Agreed about the sunroof. When i ordered my last Camaro, I was going back and forth about the sunroof. I was glad I omitted it. It looks 10X better without it. With a sunroof, the roof looks like a bald guys head.

OP, One other thing you could do is get a Hyper Blue ZL1. There should be plenty to choose from and if you wait till fall they'll be a few thousand less. This will make you forget that you gave up your SS because now you can look at it as you gave up your SS for an upgrade. Most ZL1's do have sunroofs, are automatic and come with mag ride and NPP by default. You may even decide not to buy the MRR reps again because the ZL1 wheels are nice. Most should have low enough miles for you too.

If I ever come back to this platform, It will 100% be in a ZL1 or ZL1 1LE.

[jamala00]

Originally Posted by m6-lt1

That is the best advise I have ever read on the internet.

Agreed about the sunroof. When i ordered my last Camaro, I was going back and forth about the sunroof. I was glad I omitted it. It looks 10X better without it. With a sunroof, the roof looks like a bald guys head.

OP, One other thing you could do is get a Hyper Blue ZL1. There should be plenty to choose from and if you wait till fall they'll be a few thousand less. This will make you forget that you gave up your SS because now you can look at it as you gave up your SS for an upgrade. Most ZL1's do have sunroofs, are automatic and come with mag ride and NPP by default. You may even decide not to buy the MRR reps again because the ZL1 wheels are nice. Most should have low enough miles for you too.

If I ever come back to this platform, It will 100% be in a ZL1 or ZL1 1LE.

About a month ago I updated my saved searches on AutoTempst, AutoTrader... etc.. to include ZL1s... I also started looking at C7 Grandsports... but ya... right now is not the best time to be looking at buying any sports car. Maybe waiting till fall isn't such a bad idea. Some of the asking prices on these 6th gens is beyond ridiculous... but if someone will pay it... Hey good on them

Also, I do agree on letting the fact that I sold my car go... but that is easier said then done.

[Joshinator99]

Couple of random thoughts:
1. You can’t touch anything like Camaro SS performance for $37K in 2026. A new S650 Mustang GT Premium gets you to 2SS level but stickers at $51K to start. That said, you do get a brand new car with a warranty to boot.
2. Having said that lol, if you want to mod the car the warranty goes out the window anyway. So the 2017 SS with only 10K miles can make a great platform to mod off of and you’re not paying $14K more for a warranty that you don’t need or want.
3. I’m seeing ZL1’s going for pretty short money these days so that’s getting to be a pretty good bang for the buck candidate now. Something to consider.

Guess you’ll have to think about how you’re going to use the car, how your budget looks, and pick accordingly. Going fast costs money, how fast do you want to go?

[jamala00]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

Couple of random thoughts:
1. You can’t touch anything like Camaro SS performance for $37K in 2026. A new S650 Mustang GT Premium gets you to 2SS level but stickers at $51K to start. That said, you do get a brand new car with a warranty to boot.
2. Having said that lol, if you want to mod the car the warranty goes out the window anyway. So the 2017 SS with only 10K miles can make a great platform to mod off of and you’re not paying $14K more for a warranty that you don’t need or want.
3. I’m seeing ZL1’s going for pretty short money these days so that’s getting to be a pretty good bang for the buck candidate now. Something to consider.

Guess you’ll have to think about how you’re going to use the car, how your budget looks, and pick accordingly. Going fast costs money, how fast do you want to go?

This is why the 2SS for me makes perfect sense. I'll never use the power of the ZL1. I used my 2SS for weekend spirited backroads. I don't see that changing. I wouldn't mod anything on it that would effect any warranty.

[jamala00]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

This one looks like a no-option 2SS babied and kept at very low mileage, and I think MSRP was $42,000 back then, so you're looking at buying a 9-year old car essentially for the same price, no warranty whatsoever. Not a good deal, especially since trade-in values for the same car are in the low or mid-20s...

Debate this for not even 1 day and the car sold already.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by jamala00

Debate this for not even 1 day and the car sold already.

Scarcity sucks

[jamala00]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Scarcity sucks

Not the right time to be in the game for one of these. I'm out... I'm not paying these ridiculous prices for 10 year old cars.. I just don't care enough about getting another one to overpay that much.

I'm going plan B....