[DaveC113]

Did DSC end up being FS-legal?

If so learning it will be an advantage. It's way too complicated for the resources I have to test it, and combined with not being all that impressed with the oem DSC shock tunes I decided not to go down that rabbit hole.

Where I've found time is adjusting for a bumpy venue, which most are to some degree... tuning rebound to maintain contact with the ground without bouncing and compression to take the bumps without unsettling the car.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Msquared

I'm going to get to borrow one this fall, so we may have more to discuss soon.

I'm sure that will be quite the discussion.

Originally Posted by DaveC113

Did DSC end up being FS-legal?

If so learning it will be an advantage. It's way too complicated for the resources I have to test it, and combined with not being all that impressed with the oem DSC shock tunes I decided not to go down that rabbit hole.

Where I've found time is adjusting for a bumpy venue, which most are to some degree... tuning rebound to maintain contact with the ground without bouncing and compression to take the bumps without unsettling the car.

Yes, aftermarket controllers were opened to all Street classes for this season. The software is flaky and while I had an aha moment right before Nats, I haven't been able to apply it yet. Now that I have an idea of how to adjust it in ways that I understand, I'm looking forward to playing with it more. Not sure if it will be a better solution than the setups Mike and Chad are running, but knowing what the wrong parts of my driving last week cost me, my subconscious does not seem to be finding a way to rationalizing a shock purchase.

[apexit53]

Originally Posted by clyde

You guys think two way shocks take time to get figured out for different surfaces? You should try a DSC controller with stock magride shocks lolololololol!

Lincoln is a tough place to make changes when you're trying to make something better as opposed to correcting something that's very clearly wrong. Very unique surface and few of us get to take enough runs in different combinations of conditions to put together a good book.



My codriver was, but his goals were...modest. I was just hoping that he'd give me some tire heat with a minimum of OPR that we were not going to do anything about no matter how much collected.

West course this year was one of the most enjoyable courses I can remember driving. Glad I was able to turn myself on to attack it, unlike the east course.

its hard to make changes and it being nationals pressure and only 3 runs... i keept telling myself drive better you dont need much.

[jwisjw]

Got a new to me daily driver ZL1 1LE that is going to be a "fun" lite prepped CAM C car. Vehicle currently has an axle back exhaust, coilovers, sway bars and intake

Future mod

1. Supercharger expansion tank
2. E50 tune

Ran it against our Corvette that is basically a SSP car on Bridgestone's (Lite CAM S) and would have been .5 faster pax wise in the Camaro. However in all fairness the tires (first heat cycle) and execution definitely did not favor the Corvette. Definitely a fun car and shifting makes it challenging to execute right.


Corvette - https://youtu.be/5mevjxEsejs?si=OUnQsam2UmrT57QK

Camaro - https://youtu.be/C2xvTJbPp2Y?si=et57VOsZDwYRsg5C

[jwisjw]

ZL1 1LE A10

E60 tune from New Era performance on a dynocom dyno with an AFE intake and axle back exhaust in 6th gear. 7th is 1:1

609 whp 666 wtq

[sgreer78]

Originally Posted by jwisjw

ZL1 1LE A10

E60 tune from New Era performance on a dynocom dyno with an AFE intake and axle back exhaust in 6th gear. 7th is 1:1

609 whp 666 wtq

What were the numbers before?

[jwisjw]

Originally Posted by sgreer78

What were the numbers before?

Didn't get a baseline because we arrived with e60 but when texting him originally about what to expect baseline versus e60 tune with current mods, he said the following "Stock we see 500-520 on Eblend 580-600"

[bigmack101]

I ran a V6 (non-1LE) last year and am looking at tire options for next year. I currently have 20" wheels with some mediocre drift tires, but am looking to replace them with stock 18's to lower my costs. Since I'm not competitively classed in FS, I don't mind going to a non-stock tire size for CAM-C. I was looking at 235/40r18 V730s - I think all in I could be under $1k. Anyone else do something similar? Happy to hear people's thoughts.

[Msquared]

Originally Posted by bigmack101

I ran a V6 (non-1LE) last year and am looking at tire options for next year. I currently have 20" wheels with some mediocre drift tires, but am looking to replace them with stock 18's to lower my costs. Since I'm not competitively classed in FS, I don't mind going to a non-stock tire size for CAM-C. I was looking at 235/40r18 V730s - I think all in I could be under $1k. Anyone else do something similar? Happy to hear people's thoughts.

You can fit any tire onto the stock wheel size (or +/- 1" in diameter) and still run in Street classes, so you can stay in F Street. The size you're looking at is probably pretty good for stock 18x8.5 wheels. It will be quite a bit shorter than the OE 245/50/18s, but that is generally good for handling. You'll want to make sure it doesn't gear so short that you frequently have to shift up to 3rd during runs, though. 245/40/18 could also be an option.

I don't know much about the V730, except that nobody competes on it at the national level and yet it's not on the exclusion list for Street classes. So I'm assuming that means it isn't quite as fast as the best 200-treadwear tires. That may or may not be a big deal for you. They are really cheap though, and they are said to have long wear in comparison to the best.

If you are serious about going to CAM, you'll want at least 18x11 wheels and 315/30/18 rubber. It will cost a lot, lot more, but without that you won't be in the hunt at all. You also will need a lot of suspension upgrades.

OTOH, in the FS classing for Camaros, it looks to me like you could add the dealer-installed "Suspension Lowering Kit, 1LE
Spec Supspension Package..." Either of those are probably a cheap way to bump up your autocross performance while remaining in F Street.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by bigmack101

I ran a V6 (non-1LE) last year and am looking at tire options for next year. I currently have 20" wheels with some mediocre drift tires, but am looking to replace them with stock 18's to lower my costs. Since I'm not competitively classed in FS, I don't mind going to a non-stock tire size for CAM-C. I was looking at 235/40r18 V730s - I think all in I could be under $1k. Anyone else do something similar? Happy to hear people's thoughts.

I think we spoke very briefly at Summit once this past summer?

Mostly echo Matt's comments about the V730 generally. They're not pointy end, but seem to be a really solid choice for someone that's looking to maximize value and fun over competitiveness by having reasonably decent grip and good wear.

It sounds like your goal is to maximize the value side of the fun vs performance vs cost equation by having the most fun at the lowest cost possible and willing to give up the last little bits of performance on the far side of diminishing returns, but still want a TW200 class tire.

If that's the case, I'll probably split with Matt there. I think the best value is probably going to be in buying a set of 18x10 or 19x10 wheels and running the 275s. The 235s on 8.5" wide wheels should be sharp and responsive, but will run out of grip very fast...and that's not fun. With a 10" wide wheel and 275s, you should get sharper, more responsive, and a lot more grip....and I think that will be a lot more enjoyable. It'll cost a little, but not huge, amount more.

[Msquared]

Wider is always going to be faster for sure. It's just a question of whether to cough up the cash for another set of wheels or not, and whether to jump down the rabbit hole of CAM. I can see both sides of the argument, and it obviously depends on the OP's financial means too.

[bigmack101]

Originally Posted by clyde

I think we spoke very briefly at Summit once this past summer?

It sounds like your goal is to maximize the value side of the fun vs performance vs cost equation by having the most fun at the lowest cost possible and willing to give up the last little bits of performance on the far side of diminishing returns, but still want a TW200 class tire.

Clyde hello! Yes I think we did talk.


That's great advice that I'll consider. I definitely find myself running out of grip a lot with the 245s currently. I need to make a cost-benefit analysis if the extra approx $1k on wheel/tire is worth it vs extra seat time. I'll keep an eye out for cheap wheels on Marketplace.

[bigmack101]

Originally Posted by Msquared

Wider is always going to be faster for sure. It's just a question of whether to cough up the cash for another set of wheels or not, and whether to jump down the rabbit hole of CAM. I can see both sides of the argument, and it obviously depends on the OP's financial means too.

Yeah I added up how much I spent on car stuff/AX last year and I'm trying to be much more disciplined this year.