[nighttowl]

Chevrolet screwed me repeatedly and I was left with a bad taste in my mouth.

We all spent 60-80k for these cars. probably more than half of the early years will grenade if the pump isnt changed. some of the newer ones will also. I know of a 22' ZL1 with a failed pump. Fact is, its a shit design.

GM knew about it and its also mentioned repeatedly across all camaro forums I've seen, which probably only accounts for maybe 15-20%? of the ZL1 vehicles sold.

They should be hammered.

But, we are the ones who will pay through the nose to fix thier f*ck up then line up for the next raping.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by nighttowl

Chevrolet screwed me repeatedly and I was left with a bad taste in my mouth.

We all spent 60-80k for these cars. probably more than half of the early years will grenade if the pump isnt changed. some of the newer ones will also. I know of a 22' ZL1 with a failed pump. Fact is, its a shit design.

GM knew about it and its also mentioned repeatedly across all camaro forums I've seen, which probably only accounts for maybe 15-20%? of the ZL1 vehicles sold.

They should be hammered.

But, we are the ones who will pay through the nose to fix thier f*ck up then line up for the next raping.

The 2022 with a failed pump isn't due to a bad design though like the 2017-2018, that would have been just a normal failure. Any part can fail in a car at any time, the 2017-2018 had a design flaw that got corrected in later models.

[nighttowl]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

The 2022 with a failed pump isn't due to a bad design though like the 2017-2018, that would have been just a normal failure. Any part can fail in a car at any time, the 2017-2018 had a design flaw that got corrected in later models.

Hey man - let me be bitter.
The engine in my $75k car needed rebuilt at 15k miles due to factory defect.

[RobZL1]

What is this oil pump failure you speak of? I'm unfamiliar. Unrelated, check out this picture I took a few weeks ago.

[nighttowl]

Originally Posted by RobZL1

What is this oil pump failure you speak of? I'm unfamiliar. Unrelated, check out this picture I took a few weeks ago.

That is it. it will slowly break away all the pump vanes.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by nighttowl

Hey man - let me be bitter.
The engine in my $75k car needed rebuilt at 15k miles due to factory defect.

Oh I understand, I would be pissed too.

[pauly1119]

In my opinion I don’t care what year it is I would change the oil pump to a katech. I just read about a 2023 that failed. They are essentially the same pump with updated materials. They are still prone to failure. Regardless of this poll most owners are not on this forum. For around 4K you can make your car bulletproof with a upgraded pump or end up like this poor guy that will have to spend thousands of dollars to repair.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by pauly1119

In my opinion I don’t care what year it is I would change the oil pump to a katech. I just read about a 2023 that failed. They are essentially the same pump with updated materials. They are still prone to failure. Regardless of this poll most owners are not on this forum. For around 4K you can make your car bulletproof with a upgraded pump or end up like this poor guy that will have to spend thousands of dollars to repair.

Newsflash, every component on your vehicle is prone to failure at some point. Hearing about ONE 2023 that failed or any other one-off failure from 2019-2024 does not make them a problem. The original issue from 2017-2018 has been fixed in 2019+ models. I don't disagree that if you're going to be modding your car well beyond stock, the Katech is good advice. If you own a 2017-2018, even if its stock, swapping to a Katech is good advice. Given how many 2019-2024 ZL1s are out there stock and modded and almost none of the stock oil pumps are failing, I'd say whatever they did to fix them seems to have worked.

[pauly1119]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

Newsflash, every component on your vehicle is prone to failure at some point. Hearing about ONE 2023 that failed or any other one-off failure from 2019-2024 does not make them a problem. The original issue from 2017-2018 has been fixed in 2019+ models. I don't disagree that if you're going to be modding your car well beyond stock, the Katech is good advice. If you own a 2017-2018, even if its stock, swapping to a Katech is good advice. Given how many 2019-2024 ZL1s are out there stock and modded and almost none of the stock oil pumps are failing, I'd say whatever they did to fix them seems to have worked.

Of course everything mechanical will fail at some point. I have some older Chevy’s and I’m well aware of that. Of course the 17’s and 18’s had a much higher failure rate but a 2020 plus should not have a pump failure regardless of what you say. Chevy is notorious for making it interesting when they build a performance car. My 03 Z06 was prone to spring failures, then my 2010 Z06 needed the heads rebuilt, these cars are no exception.

[Stoner]

If this issue ever goes to a class action lawsuit, I'm in!

[JSH]

It's hard for me to imagine that GM is liable for a part failure in an eight-year-old auto.

[nighttowl]

Originally Posted by JSH

It's hard for me to imagine that GM is liable for a part failure in an eight-year-old auto.

Long first post says the pump failed while under warranty but they said drive the shit out of it. Then when the motor blows up they say f-you

[RobZL1]

Where did you land? Did you build it with a new motor on your own dime?

[nighttowl]

Originally Posted by RobZL1

Where did you land? Did you build it with a new motor on your own dime?

Chevy said they would only replace the oil pump in it.
dealership said they would not touch it unless they were swapping in a crate motor. chevy said they could pay 20% of it.
I was like Fu, you need to pay for all of it. they said but you tracked the car.
I contacted a huge amoutn of legal firms, and not a single one would do anything. at that poijnt I gave up.
I had wrath rebuild it with a cam. All in it ended up costing me about 20k, so I have a camaro that cost me over 100k before 20k miles.