[Need4Camaro]

Which way would you go on a SS model?

[bishopts]

Turbo is better but it's a bigger footprint in the engine bay. Supercharger is a smaller footprint but it takes much more power from the engine to turn vs a turbo.
If your going for the dyno queen/roll racer then turbo. If your trying to hit personal best quarter mile runs supercharger.
Personally, i would go procharger through a water to air intercooler.

[Need4Camaro]

Originally Posted by bishopts

Turbo is better but it's a bigger footprint in the engine bay. Supercharger is a smaller footprint but it takes much more power from the engine to turn vs a turbo.
If your going for the dyno queen/roll racer then turbo. If your trying to hit personal best quarter mile runs supercharger.
Personally, i would go procharger through a water to air intercooler.

What if maneuverability was still important? Going fast and straight never really got my adrenaline burning. I want to be able to grind through gears and take turns.

Also why would you go with a Procharger instead of a Whipple?

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by bishopts

Turbo is better but it's a bigger footprint in the engine bay. Supercharger is a smaller footprint but it takes much more power from the engine to turn vs a turbo.
If your going for the dyno queen/roll racer then turbo. If your trying to hit personal best quarter mile runs supercharger.
Personally, i would go procharger through a water to air intercooler.

The fastest 3 cars on the quick 20 list are all twin turbo so not sure why you think a supercharger is faster.

The PD blower superchargers are the best all around choice IMO. You get big block level torque and no loss of high end horsepower. You won’t need a converter like a turbo or procharger either so it’ll street drive like a stock car. And the upper limit can be very high if you use Maggie 2650 or Whipple 3.0 units.

[p47dman]

Will any of the choices fit under a stock SS hood?

[HankVA]

At an HPDE event I was talking with an instructor who had a ZLE. He said that he'd originally bought an SS and had it supercharged, and found that the operating temp would be close overheating after 15-20 minutes of hard running. I don't know anything about his build, but he seemed to think the cooling system and stock internals aren't down for extended, repeated runs under boost. Maybe he skimped on something, I don't know.

[James Montigny]

There are plenty of fast cars with either power adder, but the cars that put down the power peak HP and cross the finish line first are mostly turbo cars. Each has its own pros and cons, which may or may not match your goals. There are also a lot of options within each category that help overcome some of the downsides in specific situations.

FWiW; I've owned both turbo and supercharged cars, and I've also raced H/C strokers. Horsepower is a lot of fun But for my DD, the 2650 Maggie is where it's at.

[Hostile_1LE]

On a road course I would want to stay N/A. IAT's are gonna be brutal with FI unless you have a really solid heat exchanger or equivalent system. But also, it might be safer and more cost effective to hit your goal N/A if your goal is 550-600whp.

[Need4Camaro]

Originally Posted by Hostile_1LE

On a road course I would want to stay N/A. IAT's are gonna be brutal with FI unless you have a really solid heat exchanger or equivalent system. But also, it might be safer and more cost effective to hit your goal N/A if your goal is 550-600whp.

Im at the 500 whp mark right now and want considerably more, but I also admit the heat factor that comes with F.I. does make me worry when it comes to road courses. Maybe I'll just keep it a mostly street car with occasional pulls here and there. Is Heat really an issue for the SS given all the front ventilation and heat extractors when it comes to F.I. ?

[GreyGhost702]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

Which way would you go on a SS model?

Depends on the purpose of the build and lots of preference. When it comes to FI, you can pretty much just pick a power level and they'll all get you there. As far as how "difficult" it is to get to your power goal, that is determined more by wallet size and availability of fuel. Whether you're PD/Turbo/Centri the higher your power goal the more part the fuel system plays than the hardware. If you wanted a 1500hp Centri car, you just buy the correct size blower system, but you need a fuel system and quality fuel to feed it.

For shits 'n giggles, PD is the way to go. Simple & Clean and a torque monster. I also think a PD car makes for a better road track car as well. So if corner carving and technical driving is your thing, a PD will serve you well. Turbo cars require smart setup. If done right, you can set up the car to do any type of racing. But it's not simple, and rarely clean.

I like Centri's because I like the linear power. I've had 3 Procharged cars, the last 2 were set up for Drag and Road Track, but only for fun, never used for competition. This car will never see the track, it's all just for street fun and terrorizing small children/neighborhoods. I would have gone the PD route if I hadn't come across a good deal on this Procharger kit. It was like the universe was saying it's meant to be, for me.

Another upside to Turbos/Centri's, you get to run cool intake manifolds. PD's are just bricks, LOL.

[bishopts]

Whipple superchargers do what they are supposed to do really well. For a daily its probably the best option because of its quick response and superior low end power.
Turbos are more effective at making power, a properly sized turbo setup will have minimal lag and have very good daily driver characteristics. But the engine bay will be packed. Simple things like changing plugs become a chore.
Procharger is a solid middle ground. Its a more linear power than whipple but not as good at low end power. And it gives you the ability to run better flowing intakes and a much more efficient water to air intercooler. And it sounds cool.
All of them properly built are close enough that its like splitting hairs trying to compare them. You really cant go wrong with either.
That being said... i got an SS over a ZL1 because i wanted a N/A car. I had a big turbo supra before and it was so much fun, but i learned pretty quick that there is always someone faster. I quit caring about being the best and focused more on beating my own times and just having fun.

[Need4Camaro]

We dont have the ability to change our rear axle gear ratios do we? I am wondering if going to a shorter gear in the rear would in some way even out the effect of the low end torque of the Whipple. Obviously it still makes the same power at the same RPM but you get more MPH out of that power rather than getting to the peak of the power band faster (and shredding your tires on the way there.)

[Hostile_1LE]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

Im at the 500 whp mark right now and want considerably more, but I also admit the heat factor that comes with F.I. does make me worry when it comes to road courses. Maybe I'll just keep it a mostly street car with occasional pulls here and there. Is Heat really an issue for the SS given all the front ventilation and heat extractors when it comes to F.I. ?

If you want "considerably more", I assume you already know that you will probably need a built short block?

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

We dont have the ability to change our rear axle gear ratios do we? I am wondering if going to a shorter gear in the rear would in some way even out the effect of the low end torque of the Whipple. Obviously it still makes the same power at the same RPM but you get more MPH out of that power rather than getting to the peak of the power band faster (and shredding your tires on the way there.)

You definitely do not need to change the rear gears. Running a slightly taller rear tire helps and a stickier compound obviously…NT555R2 gets a lot of love for its traction. You can ease up the timing down low to help keep the low end torque in check. I run a Smoothboost boost controller on my Whipple so I can knock some power off when cruising on the street too, then dial it back up at the track.