[Roddrz]

Originally Posted by Hernandez3674

Thanks for your update Roddrz, do you still plan for a DIY update. I plan to do this mod myself also and read your thread a dozen times to prepare. Thanks for your contribution.

I hope that this post is all you need?

The information and pictures are more than what NextGen provided to me, plus NextGen are just phone call away.

NextGen either answers the phone immediately or get back within hours.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

For Clarification: Nate from Next Gen explains the difference in problems between the valve bodies between Ford and GM.

That's a good explanation and is was my understanding in the beginning that this was the difference between the Ford and Chevy versions. Both Ford and GM co-built the A-10 trans and Camaro was the very first to use it.

I actually owned the 2nd production A10 for both Ford and GM on my 2017 ZL1. I was told the GM valve bodies were tuned completely different from Ford or GM trucks due to the performance shifting aspect. There's also a difference between 10L80 SS and 10L90 ZL1.

[wang970305]

For the TCM control valve repair… I understand tuning voids the warranty, what if I buy a new TCM and relearn it. Whenever the transmission fails, can I put the oem TCM back on and let GM fix it still? Lol cuz I’m planning to tune my TCM, now I’m not sure what to do…

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by mlee

That's a good explanation and is was my understanding in the beginning that this was the difference between the Ford and Chevy versions. Both Ford and GM co-built the A-10 trans and Camaro was the very first to use it.

I actually owned the 2nd production A10 for both Ford and GM on my 2017 ZL1. I was told the GM valve bodies were tuned completely different from Ford or GM trucks due to the performance shifting aspect. There's also a difference between 10L80 SS and 10L90 ZL1.

I assume you are not on the recall list given the year, and more than likely have the Gen 1 A10 which does not have an issue with valve bodies.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by wang970305

For the TCM control valve repair… I understand tuning voids the warranty, what if I buy a new TCM and relearn it. Whenever the transmission fails, can I put the oem TCM back on and let GM fix it still? Lol cuz I’m planning to tune my TCM, now I’m not sure what to do…

Your other mods will void the warranty as well.

GM specifically blames my engine modifications and tune as the cause for their defective valve body due to "undue additional stress" as they worded it.

My questions to them is: "GM if that is true then why do the recall at all? GM are you saying your stock tune causes "undue additional stress" on the valve body as well? Still sound like a manufacturer defect to me?"

This is also known in the legal community as "Breach of Contract" especially under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act for modified vehicles like ours.

You can potentially sue an auto manufacturer for breach of contract if they refuse to honor a valid warranty or recall defects. This is because a warranty is a contractual agreement between the manufacturer and the consumer. If the manufacturer fails to uphold their end of the agreement, it can be considered a breach of contract, and you may be able to pursue legal action.

Recalls and Defects:

Recalls are a formal acknowledgement by a manufacturer that a product is defective and potentially dangerous. Refusing to address these defects, as outlined in the recall, can also be a breach of contract.

I have a recorded phone call of GM refusing to honor the recall. The fact I don't have a warranty is irrelevant. And Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act specifically states it has to be proven in court that the modifications caused the defect.

[wang970305]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

Your other mods will void the warranty as well.

GM specifically blames my engine modifications and tune as the cause for their defective valve body due to "undue additional stress" as they worded it.

My questions to them is: "GM if that is true then why do the recall at all? GM are you saying your stock tune causes "undue additional stress" on the valve body as well? Still sound like a manufacturer defect to me?"

This is also known in the legal community as "Breach of Contract" especially under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act for modified vehicles like ours.





I have a recorded phone call of GM refusing to honor the recall. The fact I don't have a warranty is irrelevant. And Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act specifically states it has to be proven in court that the modifications caused the defect.

My dealer called me right before they update TCM, they don’t wanna mess up my tune. I told them only ECM is tuned, They can update the TCM without any issues. They had no problem with that lol

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by wang970305

My dealer called me right before they update TCM, they don’t wanna mess up my tune. I told them only ECM is tuned, They can update the TCM without any issues. They had no problem with that lol

Ya in my case my TCM is tuned. So understandably I don't want the update. I want them to fix the defect the right way, and fix any subsequent damage caused by the defect. My transmission is physically 100% factory stock from the manufactuer. I'm not the one who put in the defective valve body GM is. Fix my shit without the TCM update dumbasses.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

I assume you are not on the recall list given the year, and more than likely have the Gen 1 A10 which does not have an issue with valve bodies.

I wasn't part of recall and the only thing I've seen is overheat on track issues

[wang970305]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

Ya in my case my TCM is tuned. So understandably I don't want the update. I want them to fix the defect the right way, and fix any subsequent damage caused by the defect. My transmission is physically 100% factory stock from the manufactuer. I'm not the one who put in the defective valve body GM is. Fix my shit without the TCM update dumbasses.

Just got a new Hptuner and doing a remote tuning. Since the TCM is not unlocked, MPVI3 cant read it.. cant truly share the tuning file with you...

[FlukeSS]

New Video with former GM Engineer and the real agenda by GM.

Confirmed GM is not fixing the problem, and they are replacing bad valve bodies with the same bad defective part just to push people out of warranty.

Here's the full 1 hour video: https://youtu.be/mNnKCEnwp6c?si=pweGyd-0s3su5Tcf

[Roddrz]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

New Video with former GM Engineer and the real agenda by GM.

Confirmed GM is not fixing the problem, and they are replacing bad valve bodies with the same bad defective part just to push people out of warranty.

Thanks so much FlukeSS.

Here is a post on the transmission pump gears failing.

[wang970305]

my CAI duct fell off yesterday, but I fixed it really quickly. When I started the car today, a check engine light came on. I thought it was cuz the car was running lean from yesterday. But it seems the CEL is related to TCM... does it mean my trans control valve is f***ed?

[dmcmahan60]

My understanding is and when it happened to me with this code was the transmission temperature sensor cable was going bad and would throw this code along with P0711 after a few months before I got the cable replaced. Long winded, sorry

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by wang970305

my CAI duct fell off yesterday, but I fixed it really quickly. When I started the car today, a check engine light came on. I thought it was cuz the car was running lean from yesterday. But it seems the CEL is related to TCM... does it mean my trans control valve is f***ed?

This is from the extended warranty on the valvebody.