[GearheadSS]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

It is kind of interesting that the 6th Gen is such a big car but has almost no back seat and the trunk space entrance is non existent. Why did they may the trunk entrance so small and why is the cabin so compact?

The 6th gen is not a big car.

[GearheadSS]

Originally Posted by m6-lt1

I don’t want to hear from anyone that says “LT2 was designed to only fit in the C8”. That’s BS. It’s still a 6.2 Chevy small block. All Chevy had to do was modify the intake a little like the aftermarket companies do for a small fee, smack a wet sump oil pump on it like the one on the LT1 and use the Camaro manifolds. Rate it at 485 hp to account for the manifold difference. I guess what I’m describing is a heads cam intake upgrade for the LT1, a lot like what Chevy did for the Ls6 in the c5 z06 back in the day.

They could have taken the L8T/P and done a version of that for Camaro. The L8P crate engine makes 523hp/543tq.

[genxer]

Originally Posted by GearheadSS

The 6th gen is not a big car.

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

It is kind of interesting that the 6th Gen is such a big car but has almost no back seat and the trunk space entrance is non existent. Why did they may the trunk entrance so small and why is the cabin so compact?

The 5th to 6th downsize failed because it's still to big. It needs to be able to beat autoX modded RX-8s (more useable interior) and BRZs, without resorting to turbo 4s. Base cars can't just be cruiser soft, enthusiast has to stop being a dirty word inside gm.

Originally Posted by m6-lt1

Agreed. Put it in the SS 1LE, make it come with BCD RPO brakes and call it a z/28.

I don’t want to hear from anyone that says “LT2 was designed to only fit in the C8”. That’s BS. It’s still a 6.2 Chevy small block. All Chevy had to do was modify the intake a little like the aftermarket companies do for a small fee, smack a wet sump oil pump on it like the one on the LT1 and use the Camaro manifolds. Rate it at 485 hp to account for the manifold difference. I guess what I’m describing is a heads cam intake upgrade for the LT1, a lot like what Chevy did for the Ls6 in the c5 z06 back in the day.

427, there's no legit reason for small displacement for block. There's no stick Vette, so make Z28s a strong upgrade again.

I voted for cheaper, but it should ideally have rear shifted trans like C5/6/7, Al fore of the firewall, and cheap everything else.

If they also wedge a transfer case between the trans & diff on a w-b stretch, and give a small sedan Cutlass pump up and down rear seat buckets with headroom- I'd need that one first now. And 5x4-3/4" super stock II's (offset is ok)

The second and third platform-mate vehicles with decent volume is a big deal. Expensive Mustang, alone, deserves to be a sitting duck.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by genxer

427, there's no legit reason for small displacement for block. There's no stick Vette, so make Z28s a strong upgrade again..

I would love a 427 variant, but would hope for the A10 as an option if nothing else.

[redcoats1976]

Originally Posted by m6-lt1

That actually isn’t the case with the gen6 Camaro. There is a thread here that contains all the details for ALL the Camaro’s built from 2020-2024. Believe it or not more V8’s were made than i4’s and V6’s combined. It is still very close to a 50/50 split but I was surprised to see a slight edge given to the V8.

I’d be willing to bet this isn’t the case with the Mustang and more i4’s are built than V8’s. If that’s the case I’d say the Camaro attracts a very different kind of buyer which unfortunately for GM is the minority.

i think you have raised a good point there.one of my car show buds has both a mid 2000s v8 mustang and a new T4/A10 mustang and he claims the T4 is about as quick.

[Need4Camaro]

Originally Posted by GearheadSS

The 6th gen is not a big car.

It's pretty long when paired side by side with sedans and even some SUV's and it's wider than some too.

[JT6Speed]

Originally Posted by m6-lt1

Agreed. Put it in the SS 1LE, make it come with BCD RPO brakes and call it a z/28.

I don’t want to hear from anyone that says “LT2 was designed to only fit in the C8”. That’s BS. It’s still a 6.2 Chevy small block. All Chevy had to do was modify the intake a little like the aftermarket companies do for a small fee, smack a wet sump oil pump on it like the one on the LT1 and use the Camaro manifolds. Rate it at 485 hp to account for the manifold difference. I guess what I’m describing is a heads cam intake upgrade for the LT1, a lot like what Chevy did for the Ls6 in the c5 z06 back in the day.

Yeah they could've made it work. This car needed more innovation, maybe some heritage colors, maybe more trims, I don't know. I think an RS/SS would have been cool too. Not sure why they only made that on the V6 trim, and then later the LT1. I get that it gives you SS appearance goodies like the headlights and smoked taillights, but maybe add a different hood, grill, or rear diffuser on the higher trims.

Originally Posted by GearheadSS

They could have taken the L8T/P and done a version of that for Camaro. The L8P crate engine makes 523hp/543tq.

Honestly, I literally never heard of this until now. That would be a cool swap. I like that it's a 400ci motor.

[Alan47717]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

It is kind of interesting that the 6th Gen is such a big car but has almost no back seat and the trunk space entrance is non existent. Why did they may the trunk entrance so small and why is the cabin so compact?

Assuming you don't want to make the car any longer you have to reduce the rake on the windshield, move the IP and front seats forward to get a bigger rear seat. Rinse and repeat in the rear to get a bigger trunk opening and voila, you have yourself a Dodge Challenger with a chopped roof.

It comes down to whether you like the styling or not. Whether you appreciate the performance or not. The Challenger and Mustang compromise both to provide better visibility, rear seat room and a larger trunk opening. TANSTAAFL.

[digitalfutur]

It should be obvious with the runaway success of the Trax that affordability and value are everything nowadays, despite all the online boo-birds frothing over the 3-banger.

So a new-gen Camaro needs to follow suit. SUVs by the prestige automakers have become their best selling models, whether it's Cadillac, BMW, Audi, Porsche or Lexus; and now Ferrari. Many called it "blasphemy", but sales, and money talk.

So the next-gen Camaro should be a well-styled turbo-4 hybrid SUV, with four doors. The online pundits will recoil, the best indicator that GM will have made the right decision.

[JT6Speed]

Originally Posted by digitalfutur

It should be obvious with the runaway success of the Trax that affordability and value are everything nowadays, despite all the online boo-birds frothing over the 3-banger.

So a new-gen Camaro needs to follow suit. SUVs by the prestige automakers have become their best selling models, whether it's Cadillac, BMW, Audi, Porsche or Lexus; and now Ferrari. Many called it "blasphemy", but sales, and money talk.

So the next-gen Camaro should be a well-styled turbo-4 hybrid SUV, with four doors. The online pundits will recoil, the best indicator that GM will have made the right decision.

I'd rather there be no Camaro ever again than to see that. What a way to bastardize an iconic nameplate with racing heritage.

[Capricio]

Originally Posted by JT6Speed

I'd rather there be no Camaro ever again than to see that. What a way to bastardize an iconic nameplate with racing heritage.

Sounds like a hybrid Blazer with a Camaro badge on it and a few more styling ques. Hooray, another mid-size SUV/crossover in a crowded marketplace.

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by digitalfutur

It should be obvious with the runaway success of the Trax that affordability and value are everything nowadays, despite all the online boo-birds frothing over the 3-banger.

So a new-gen Camaro needs to follow suit. SUVs by the prestige automakers have become their best selling models, whether it's Cadillac, BMW, Audi, Porsche or Lexus; and now Ferrari. Many called it "blasphemy", but sales, and money talk.

So the next-gen Camaro should be a well-styled turbo-4 hybrid SUV, with four doors. The online pundits will recoil, the best indicator that GM will have made the right decision.

I agree. This would sell well. I want to make it clear that I don’t think Chevy should do this, just agree that it would sell well. It would be a Camaro in name but not in its soul.

I’m tired of manufacturers taking iconic names and slapping them on CUV’s. What you described would sell exactly the same no matter what Chevy called it.

[95 imp]

I do not understand the rear seating issue that keeps getting brought up.

The second gen Camaro had the same amount of rear seating as the 6th gen. (nothing to speak of), yet the '79 was the biggest volume year of the lineage.

I could see price, complexity to repair/modify, perceived poor quality, *maybe visibility*, and changing demographics all be causes of its lack of popularity.

[speedyink1]

Yeah... I've never once wanted to put more then one other person in my Camaro.

I don't have kids but I could see putting one or two in the back could be a fun time with the fam. In that case, the 6th Gen still works in most cases (Depends on each parent's height whether they have to sever off one or both of their kids' legs or not).

I do remember exactly one time I had to have another adult passenger in the back of my 4th gen Trans Am. I don't think the experience would be any worse in a 6th gen. Again, greatly depends on each passengers height though. (No idea how the sales of the 4th gen were, but there ya go anyway I guess)