[Need4Camaro]

You have to choose one, and only one... vote and debate ...

[Bosse'sBoss]

The 6th gen Camaro is a very well balanced performance machine that was able to compete with BMW M2 Competition and BMW M4 at the same or at a better level of performance for a much lower admission price. Also the Camaro was a better sport car compared to non Shelby Mustangs, Challengers or Chargers. Most of the media praised the 6th gen Camaro with is oustanding Alpha chassis but GM didn't toke advantage of it.

[ZED SLED]

More available needs to be a choice!

[Capricio]

According to this, price.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2025/01...gen-exclusive/

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by Capricio

According to this, price.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2025/01...gen-exclusive/

I was going to say I can't agree with anyone who said marketing.

Marketing doesn't reduce the price of a vehicle it increases it.

$7000 for the 1LE package. On a car that was normally priced around $43,000 - $47,000

Anyone remember when ZL1's were $67,000... And used 2018+ were going for $45,000-$60,000? I do.

[N Camarolina]

Can't agree with the Price thing at all. The G6 Camaro was an unbelievably good value relative to price vs performance of the competitors. The 1LE package was no exception. You got way more than $6-$7K worth of hardware from package. Beats the performance of a regular GT350 and matches/beats the Mach 1 and M2 Competition for much less money. With this in mind, how is price the problem?

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

I was going to say I can't agree with anyone who said marketing.

Marketing doesn't reduce the price of a vehicle it increases it.

$7000 for the 1LE package. On a car that was normally priced around $43,000 - $47,000

Anyone remember when ZL1's were $67,000... And used 2018+ were going for $45,000-$60,000? I do.

Completely agree with you and I remember.

For those of you who say it performs better than cars in higher price brackets, that doesn’t actually matter as long as it performs okay. It doesn’t have to be the best. Most people buying a sports coupe aren’t buying one because it’s faster than another car. They’re buying it because it looks cool and has SOME/okay power.

Those of you who buy based on driving dynamics, performance or performance per dollar like me need to realize we are a MINORITY, and a small one at that. As someone in that minority I’m glad GM built the 6th gen Camaro the way they did but they kind of shot themselves in the foot. If I recall correctly it started 5k more than the mustang (at least the SS did versus the GT) in 2016. That’s a big chunk of change. You don't have to tell me it was much better than the Mustang. I know it was and that’s why I bought it. I already explained why it doesn’t matter to most folks looking for a sporty coupe.

I know every other manufacturer has ramped up their prices but I think it’s ridiculous how easily an SS would get to 50k. Fully loaded or not that’s too much for the non super charged variant. Just 10 years ago the ZL1 msrp’d at 55k and I’m sorry but 10 years isn’t long enough ago for the last ZL1 to eventually start at 70k by the time it went out of production. Again I don’t care it performed better, you’re limiting potential buyers raising your prices every year. I think my 2SS 1LE cost too much and only bought it because the writing is on the wall for manual v8 rwd coupes. Otherwise I would not bought one.

[GreenZLE]

A new Camaro needs better visibility and more marketing which was completely lacking the last several years. Also, it needs a high end model that competes with the Shelbys and Dark Horses.

I dont think price is what led to its demise.

The end of the latest model saw many missed sales as evidenced by many people here, including me, who couldnt find an allocation.

If it comes back as a Mach E clone, I think it will fail.

[N Camarolina]

Originally Posted by m6-lt1

Completely agree with you and I remember.

For those of you who say it performs better than cars in higher price brackets, that doesn’t actually matter as long as it performs okay. It doesn’t have to be the best. Most people buying a sports coupe aren’t buying one because it’s faster than another car. They’re buying it because it looks cool and has SOME/okay power.

Those of you who buy based on driving dynamics, performance or performance per dollar like me need to realize we are a MINORITY, and a small one at that. As someone in that minority I’m glad GM built the 6th gen Camaro the way they did but they kind of shot themselves in the foot. If I recall correctly it started 5k more than the mustang (at least the SS did versus the GT) in 2016. That’s a big chunk of change. You don't have to tell me it was much better than the Mustang. I know it was and that’s why I bought it. I already explained why it doesn’t matter to most folks looking for a sporty coupe.

I know every other manufacturer has ramped up their prices but I think it’s ridiculous how easily an SS would get to 50k. Fully loaded or not that’s too much for the non super charged variant. Just 10 years ago the ZL1 msrp’d at 55k and I’m sorry but 10 years isn’t long enough ago for the last ZL1 to eventually start at 70k by the time it went out of production. Again I don’t care it performed better, you’re limiting potential buyers raising your prices every year. I think my 2SS 1LE cost too much and only bought it because the writing is on the wall for manual v8 rwd coupes. Otherwise I would not bought one.

Well said and a good reminder that most of us on this forum aren't your typical buyer (me probably even less so!).

But, I doubt a cheaper Camaro would suddenly attract a lot of new buyers, because the previously identified G6 limitations for daily use (trunk access, visibility, etc) would still be a deterant for the average customer.

And haven't prices on most vehicles gone up quite a bit (both new and used) over the last 2 years?

[Malbjey]

Better practicality needs to be added to the poll. The bunker visibility and awful trunk opening are what killed the car when cross shopping Mustangs and Challengers.


Yes pricing was a factor as well. The 'entry' model for the V8 was the 1SS for a long time. It was thousands more versus a base model V8 from Ford or Dodge. Yes, the SS was the better performance car on the track but if Chevy wants the Camaro to out-sell the competition they need to make it a better car for the street as well.



It took Chevy too long to release the base model LT1 V8 trim. Even then, they still messed up by not offering a package with heated/cooled seats and other creature comforts. You have to jump aaaaaaalllll the way up to a 2SS for that stuff which is like $8K+ more? You did not have such a big jump for that stuff when shopping the I4 and V6 Camaros.



The 7th gen absolutely needs to be more affordable compared to 6th gen vs Mustang pricing. I just hope they make it as a better coupe as well, so that people don't instantly write it off as soon as they sit in it.

[JT6Speed]

Lot of good points made so far. I'm going to say it comes down to more than one thing as well. The price was very competitive in the later years of production, early on I can't speak for, because I was still in my previous gen Mustang. When I was building and pricing out, my Camaro build was equal to, if not cheaper, than a base R/T Challenger (yes, with the 5.7). A Scat was easily an extra 5-7 grand, and that was for a "stripper" model. Ideally I would have gone for a widebody or shaker, so add ten thousand easily.

I'm not sure how much marketing would matter either. I think ultimately this was an "if you know, you know" kind of car. We enthusiasts know what this car is all about and it's true purpose. Not everyone shopping for a sports car will necessarily see it that way though. They may not be willing to sacrifice a small trunk opening, or high belt line, among other things for performance.

At the end of the day, the V8 coupe is pretty much extinct. Not to mention manuals are an endangered species.

You'll never get V8+coupe+RWD+manual=Camaro ever again, that I'm confident in. At least some part of that equation will change, whether it be a sedan, or mid-engine, or still a coupe but not a V8, I have no idea.

[cadyshac]

Not enough gear heads out there to make the 6th gen work. People want a car that looks great and functions great too. The visibility and trunk opening kill that on the Camaro. I don't care, I bought it for the looks and power but most wouldn't. Price is another thing, seems like the Corvette was always way more expensive but now you can get into a C8 for less than the top tier muscle cars. Everything cost too much, when pickups cost as much as a Z06 that's crazy to me. Want a V8 Wrangler or Bronco, $100K!!
Dodge had the best marketing with the Hemi and Dodge brothers commercials but I never understood why Chevy didn't market the Camaro in a similar way.
Lastly I'm not a Mopar guy but I do like the looks of the Challenger but for the model I would want the price is stupid high $$$ so I never even test drove one.

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by N Camarolina

And haven't prices on most vehicles gone up quite a bit (both new and used) over the last 2 years?

Yes, I acknowledged that in my original comment. Manufactures have finally realized this. You can get 5k off msrp off a new vette right now and even more off a z06. Trucks, SUV’s mustangs (the only manual ice v8) all have good incentives right now. I still feel they cost too much even with the incentives.With the condition of the economy we might see even better incentives.

[KingLT1]

Practicality is the issue. Otherwise, the 6th gen was a well-rounded car for the money. The fact that it's more difficult to see out of and almost non-useable back seat make it less attractive for those that can only afford 1 car. Hence why you see so many Chargers and Challengers running around. The masses don't compare lap times or 0-60. They see big comfy ride with lots of HP and it has their attention. GM already has the Corvette for a 2 seat option, and the Cadillac is out of reach for many. They need to bring back an affordable big 2 door or 4 door car like Pontiac G8 GT. Give it a 6.2 with Awd and watch it sell like hot cakes. It's going to take something like this to draw buyers in since most want a SUV or Crossover to daily. The problem is it likely won't met Cafe standards or whatever. Hence why everything is now trending to a 4cylinder turbo.