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Old 12-23-2024, 10:20 AM   #15
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SOUND ADVICE!!

The abuse Road Racing puts on every part of the car is massively more taxing to every system. In drag racing where straight-line acceleration is the key, everything is loaded for acceleration... unlike road racing where the throttle is used like a whip, beating the drivetrain into load, unload and load at a frequency beyond comprehension of most drivers.

Yeah and then add in Dubai temps where a cool session is conducted at around 30 degrees C and all components are stress tested to the max. I watched your vid, most informative, thanks!
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Old 12-23-2024, 08:18 PM   #16
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Yeah and then add in Dubai temps where a cool session is conducted at around 30 degrees C and all components are stress tested to the max. I watched your vid, most informative, thanks!
Well aware of the temps there and the conditions needed. We have tuned dozens of cars there, from Nissan GTRs to twin-turbo Lambo upgrades... and it is for these reasons I have focused upon cooling before trying to add more power. Consider my results in the dyno video I shared earlier and linked in the video posted here. In all my research, I have yet to discover any other ZLE LT4 making the wide torque band and exceptional power with no timing being pulled or detonation on pump-gas to an E35% blend. By focusing on the conditions that kill power and cause the demand on more fueling, shrinking the OEM pump/injectors capability.

Now, just imagine the power I could make with a Whipple, it's better efficiency or a ported set of CID Heads and a matched cam and a Kong X-port with what I have already achieved. I will continue this quest and share on my YouTube channel as well as here. Stay Tuned and as always... I am open to all comments/suggestions to learn more.
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Old 12-23-2024, 09:06 PM   #17
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Well aware of the temps there and the conditions needed. We have tuned dozens of cars there, from Nissan GTRs to twin-turbo Lambo upgrades... and it is for these reasons I have focused upon cooling before trying to add more power. Consider my results in the dyno video I shared earlier and linked in the video posted here. In all my research, I have yet to discover any other ZLE LT4 making the wide torque band and exceptional power with no timing being pulled or detonation on pump-gas to an E35% blend. By focusing on the conditions that kill power and cause the demand on more fueling, shrinking the OEM pump/injectors capability.

Now, just imagine the power I could make with a Whipple, it's better efficiency or a ported set of CID Heads and a matched cam and a Kong X-port with what I have already achieved. I will continue this quest and share on my YouTube channel as well as here. Stay Tuned and as always... I am open to all comments/suggestions to learn more.
My car is still stock and I've beaten it pretty good at my local track. My lap times are usually in the top 2-3%. I've done extensive running in hot conditions. 100*F days often and the car has never pulled timing in a 20 minute session. ...even did a 45 minute stint at an open track once. Granted, I haven't run a log but I'm going by feel and my speeds at the end of the straights. If it was pulling timing I'd notice the decrease in acceleration off the exits and I'd be a few mph slower by the end of the straights.

Personally, for me, I would just add the 2650 with a tune to get 100hp more and the added insurance of the larger cooling bricks. Once you get to the fastest end of the Expert group, you struggle to put the power down on the corner exits even in stock trim. Things really change when you start trying to get on the gas those split seconds earlier. The 2650 will buy you a couple of tenths out of every corner and you can also get away with being in the wrong gear. Outside of that, you'd be hard pressed to get all of that power down without dramatically modifying the aero.

Just my $0.02. Please ignore if it doesn't add to the convo.

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Old 12-23-2024, 10:50 PM   #18
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Just my $0.02. Please ignore if it doesn't add to the convo.
Which track? Watkins Glen? Great Track!!
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Old 12-24-2024, 08:07 PM   #19
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Which track? Watkins Glen? Great Track!!
NJMP Thunderbolt.

I do plan to make it to Watkins Glen at least once next season and possibly VIR.
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Old 12-25-2024, 08:24 PM   #20
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Just a suggestion, My cars being built with its 2650 and headers etc etc etc at Rated R Performance in San Antonio, I had it hauled there its my Christmas present with its new Custom DSX tuning turned billet Pulley to have true Stock size for the ATI, I also have a DSX lid, Katech Pump, LME Cover, BTR stage 2 Cam etc etc being installed, If I were to build more I would not consider the DSX low side with tapping into the tank and Praying it does not leak in the future, others make the same thing.... I would go with the twin In tank Pump thats good for taking fuel from both sides of the saddled tank....


Almost bought one just because But mines a daily, I have speed intercoolers, and a Boostapump a ice tank and may drag someday..But I am not ever most likely going to E to get to 1000 RWHP.... I don't need it and the 5-6 K it takes, If I did I would spend the 2k for the dual pump and not 1k to drill a hole in my tank.... The dual pump comes with HP tuning file its sweet.....Just a thought, I know moneys tight , I just saved up over fifteen grand in parts and shipped my car for $1700 and now about ten for installs and parts ditching AFM and DOD and dyno tuning etc etc....

I research , Thats what I can do.... And in Salem Oregon the choices around here are few...Lingenfelter, Livernois up in Lakes.. talked to them........they just want to do their packages and don't like customers buying the parts...Many are that way...

Rated R appears to be what I Like, and I am a old Grunt Motor head......Good Luck. I have like everything BMR, and a Elite 2x ultra, One piece driveline, etc etc went for lots of supporting mods before biting the bullet to spend big$ When failures not an option.... look for every weakness to be addressed by the aftermarket over time, don't buy the first year of anything.....ETC and check online everywhere and even check the posts here.. AND BTW the price was right with Rated R...and the customer ratings on Facebook etc........
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