Thoughts on Range AFM Disabler - Page 2

RollaMo · 03-12-2020, 08:19 PM

Have had one on our '17 2SS for just over a year now.
No issues at all, and no more going into V4 mode.

L8Apex · 03-13-2020, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rshelar

Bought a used one on Ebay.

You must have an A8 with stock exhaust. Otherwise you would know.

You might add A8 or M6 to your profile so we know.

M6, and only a CAI and axleback for mods

I had one of the worst lag issues Mike from Soler ever tried to deal with I believe, so it's still not 100%, possibly surge coming back and I'm sick of it, especially when I get to drive my friends C7, and the throttle is perfect, ugh.

RollaMo · 03-13-2020, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by L8Apex

I didn't think my 2016 SS had it, but after reading, I suppose it must. Since I'm going for a tune in the near future, think I'll save the $189 these modules cost and put that towards the tune and have it fixed then.

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Originally Posted by L8Apex

M6, and only a CAI and axleback for mods

If you have M6 (manual transmission), then you don't have AFM

cmking26 · 03-13-2020, 10:42 AM

My 09 G8 GT had a stuck lifter due to the AFM. So I would recommend disabling it on the camaro's.

Zapote21 · 03-13-2020, 02:27 PM

Just bought one for the V6 Hot wheels. Next is the 2020 SS

craigss50 · 03-13-2020, 03:56 PM

I got a 2 to 3 mpg less using the Range. I have it disconnected presently.

lt-fun · 03-15-2020, 07:47 PM

How often do people legitimately run into this lifter problem with the AFM? It seems like GM probably wouldn't want to do a ton of warranty work for free over an easily solvable problem...

NewCamaroSSowner · 10-25-2024, 07:39 AM

That'a what I'd like to know. GM uses this AFM on both Camaros and trucks and possibly other cars and if there were a lot of lifter fail it seems like they would have discontinued it and they haven't to my knowledge. I am debating on getting a Range for my 2011 Camaro SS but I already have worse gas mileage that most here, city highway combined as low as 12.9 to a high of 15 with mostly 13. I am not a hard driver either and on the highway the best I have ever gotten driving 70 was 23 but usually get 19-20 if I drive with flow of traffic at 75-80. So Losing 1-2 mpg is a big deal to me. Also having to repair my engine would be a big deal too. I am retired on disability. I only have 62,000 miles currently with no issues. Do I need to get the Range now before something happens? I had one well know you tube tv show tell me I needed to do a top engine delete, new lifters and a heads off job that a tune or afm disabiler wouldn't do it. Also that if I added headers it would not improve or make up for the mpg loss of the tuning out the AFM. I always heard headers would help not only with slight incresase in HP but would help with slight mpg 1-2 increase on a car or truck. Thoughts on any of this ? I would appericate it, my car is long out of warrenty and I really don't want to get rid of it because its such a nice car and has been problem free in the 4 years I have owned it.

cgdelena · 10-25-2024, 12:39 PM

I had no concerns until I saw a Camaro waiting for service when on a visit to the dealership that had a failed lifter. I tracked down an experienced mechanic who said this was the first Camaro he had seen with the problem but said he had worked on several Suburbans with the issue.

When I questioned him regarding avoiding this issue he recommended regular changes using 0W40 and to consider blocking the frequent switching with DOD.

So I have ordered a Range device to stay in 8-cyl mode.

SSShark · 10-25-2024, 02:15 PM

I just had my AFM tuned out. No more 4 cyl mode.

2SS Capt · 10-25-2024, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cgdelena

I had no concerns until I saw a Camaro waiting for service when on a visit to the dealership that had a failed lifter. I tracked down an experienced mechanic who said this was the first Camaro he had seen with the problem but said he had worked on several Suburbans with the issue.

When I questioned him regarding avoiding this issue he recommended regular changes using 0W40 and to consider blocking the frequent switching with DOD.

So I have ordered a Range device to stay in 8-cyl mode.

I'm hitting close to 1 year before even hitting the mileage on my oil, roughly getting 2,000 to maybe 2,500 miles on an oil change (at most)... However, I do also have the Range device installed and will leave it installed, I don't give a crap about gas mileage on this car as this is my "fun" car... If I'm getting too many miles per gallon I'm not having enough "Fun per Gallon"!!!

SSShark · 10-26-2024, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 2SS Capt

I'm hitting close to 1 year before even hitting the mileage on my oil, roughly getting 2,000 to maybe 2,500 miles on an oil change (at most)... However, I do also have the Range device installed and will leave it installed, I don't give a crap about gas mileage on this car as this is my "fun" car... If I'm getting too many miles per gallon I'm not having enough "Fun per Gallon"!!!

Attaboy Capt

SSShark · 10-26-2024, 05:51 AM

Lest we forget, the manuals have the same motor,. The only difference is the AFM is deactivated .So it's like running a Range in permanent mode.

2SS Capt · 10-26-2024, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SSShark

Lest we forget, the manuals have the same motor,. The only difference is the AFM is deactivated .So it's like running a Range in permanent mode.

However, they still have the same crappy lifters... They just aren't being "activated"...

03-12-2020, 08:19 PM	#15
RollaMo Drives: 2017 2SS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rolla, MO Posts: 1,106	Have had one on our '17 2SS for just over a year now. No issues at all, and no more going into V4 mode. __________________ 1996 Corvette - LT4 2017 Camaro 2SS 2019 GMC Sierra 2500 HD 2015 Harley Davidson Ultra Limited

03-13-2020, 10:42 AM	#18
cmking26 Drives: 2018 Arctic Blue SS Recaro's Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Illinois Posts: 77	My 09 G8 GT had a stuck lifter due to the AFM. So I would recommend disabling it on the camaro's. Last edited by cmking26; 03-13-2020 at 04:17 PM.

03-13-2020, 02:27 PM	#19
Zapote21 Tampa Bay Camaros Drives: 2017 Krypton Green 2SS Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Westfield, IN Posts: 1,042 View My Garage	Just bought one for the V6 Hot wheels. Next is the 2020 SS __________________ Me and wife, in order 2011 2SS SGM 2013 2SS Hot wheels vert 2016 C7 DSOM 2012 2SS yellow vert 2017 2LT Krypton Green 2018 2LT Hot wheels crush 2020 2SS Shock vert. 2017 2SS Krypton Green coupe

10-25-2024, 02:15 PM	#24
SSShark Drives: '23 1SS Sharkskin A10 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,503	I just had my AFM tuned out. No more 4 cyl mode. __________________ Kooks 1-7/8" Long Tube Headers l Kooks Hi-Flow Cats l Kooks X-Pipe l Borla S-Type NPP Exhaust Rotofab CAI l Mishimoto Catch Can l DSX Flex Fuel Sensor l 93/E85 Tune l GM Lowering Kit Ported LT2 Intake Manifold l Ported 95mm LT5 TB l BMR Rear Cradle Lockout Kit Halo Tunnel Brace l MRR 1LE Wheels l Goodyear SC3 1LE Tire Package l 480whp/467wtq

10-26-2024, 05:51 AM	#27
SSShark Drives: '23 1SS Sharkskin A10 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,503	Lest we forget, the manuals have the same motor,. The only difference is the AFM is deactivated .So it's like running a Range in permanent mode. __________________ Kooks 1-7/8" Long Tube Headers l Kooks Hi-Flow Cats l Kooks X-Pipe l Borla S-Type NPP Exhaust Rotofab CAI l Mishimoto Catch Can l DSX Flex Fuel Sensor l 93/E85 Tune l GM Lowering Kit Ported LT2 Intake Manifold l Ported 95mm LT5 TB l BMR Rear Cradle Lockout Kit Halo Tunnel Brace l MRR 1LE Wheels l Goodyear SC3 1LE Tire Package l 480whp/467wtq

03-13-2020, 03:56 PM	#20
craigss50 Drives: 2017 Camaro SS Fifty Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Port St Lucie, Florida Posts: 966	I got a 2 to 3 mpg less using the Range. I have it disconnected presently.

03-15-2020, 07:47 PM	#21
lt-fun Drives: 2020 Camaro LT1 Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: FL Posts: 37	How often do people legitimately run into this lifter problem with the AFM? It seems like GM probably wouldn't want to do a ton of warranty work for free over an easily solvable problem...

10-25-2024, 07:39 AM	#22
NewCamaroSSowner Drives: 2011 Camaro SS convertible Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Owensboro, KY Posts: 21	That'a what I'd like to know. GM uses this AFM on both Camaros and trucks and possibly other cars and if there were a lot of lifter fail it seems like they would have discontinued it and they haven't to my knowledge. I am debating on getting a Range for my 2011 Camaro SS but I already have worse gas mileage that most here, city highway combined as low as 12.9 to a high of 15 with mostly 13. I am not a hard driver either and on the highway the best I have ever gotten driving 70 was 23 but usually get 19-20 if I drive with flow of traffic at 75-80. So Losing 1-2 mpg is a big deal to me. Also having to repair my engine would be a big deal too. I am retired on disability. I only have 62,000 miles currently with no issues. Do I need to get the Range now before something happens? I had one well know you tube tv show tell me I needed to do a top engine delete, new lifters and a heads off job that a tune or afm disabiler wouldn't do it. Also that if I added headers it would not improve or make up for the mpg loss of the tuning out the AFM. I always heard headers would help not only with slight incresase in HP but would help with slight mpg 1-2 increase on a car or truck. Thoughts on any of this ? I would appericate it, my car is long out of warrenty and I really don't want to get rid of it because its such a nice car and has been problem free in the 4 years I have owned it.

10-25-2024, 12:39 PM	#23
cgdelena Drives: 2019 2SS Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: WA Posts: 98	I had no concerns until I saw a Camaro waiting for service when on a visit to the dealership that had a failed lifter. I tracked down an experienced mechanic who said this was the first Camaro he had seen with the problem but said he had worked on several Suburbans with the issue. When I questioned him regarding avoiding this issue he recommended regular changes using 0W40 and to consider blocking the frequent switching with DOD. So I have ordered a Range device to stay in 8-cyl mode.

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