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Old 08-30-2024, 04:37 PM   #1
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Door repainted (poorly) after vandalism/theft attempt

I was the unlucky recipient of having my car vandalized but dbags weren't able to drive stick to steal it (according to detective that saw video footage) so the passenger door and the A Pillar/Roof had to be fixed and repainted. I got my car back from the shop and it looks like the door is a slightly lighter shade than front fender panel. It's not really noticeable when looking at it straight on, and why I didn't catch it right away, but when looking at it at an angle you can visibly see it. I've just informed the body shop but waiting to hear back. Anyone here experienced with paint and if this is something that's easily corrected (repainted that is)? I can't not see it now.

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Old 08-30-2024, 06:01 PM   #2
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Definitely off. I had a door repainted in 07 on my 06 F350, oddly enough it was grey too. It was about as close as yours appears to be. I said I said it's OK as it was a work truck and I didn't plan on keeping it that long. I still have the truck and as it aged the fender and door are a lot further apart color wise than they were when it was done. I'm not sure if the door just got lighter sitting in the sun or the original Ford paint darkened up but it's super noticeable now.

I'd request they fix it.
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Old 08-30-2024, 06:10 PM   #3
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Have before pics? Looks like they had to base color the door close to the ends, and didn't blend it into the fender. If they blend into the fender they have to clear the whole fender as well... and maybe blend into the hood if it doesn't look right - and you guessed it, clear the whole hood. The color isn't a great match, but if they blended - it would be much less noticeable. <but your hood is wrapped, so no need for hood work>

I had a hood painted on the wife's van a while back. Guy complained that the previous painter didn't get the color correct and that is why he couldn't match it up properly. I then informed him, his shop was the previous painter! He repainted the whole front clip to make it right.

What work did they quote when they bid the job? Blend into adjacent panels and apply clear should have been in the initial quote. If they quoted and charged it that way, that would be fraud because they didn't do that. If they didn't quote it that way, they should have went back to your insurance company and got additional funding to do it right when they knew they couldn't blend into just the door. This isn't some 10 year old daily beater.
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Old 08-31-2024, 12:16 AM   #4
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Definitely off, they didn't blend the adjoining panels (check to see if you were charged for blending, sometimes shops charge to blend and try to avoid actually doing it to save money)...
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Old 08-31-2024, 02:39 PM   #5
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I looked at one pic and that's all I needed to see. They painted the door off the car and didn't blend.

Proper procedure is to blend half way into the fender and half into the quarter with the base coat.
Clear has to go a bit beyond that and be blended in as well. Some shops go panel line to panel line. For you that would be from the rear bumper to the front bumper.

Clearly they didn't mix the right shade from your RPO codes or did a piss poor job. They hoped you wouldn't notice but I think even Ray Charles wouldn't miss that!

Sorry op.

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I looked at more pics. That's awful. Did they really think you wouldn't notice?!?! That's clear as day not right. I'm not trying to be rude to you, it's just sad they pushed that out the door knowing damn well it didn't match.
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Old 08-31-2024, 02:56 PM   #6
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I looked at one pic and that's all I needed to see. They painted the door off the car and didn't blend.

Proper procedure is to blend half way into the fender and half into the quarter with the base coat.
Clear has to go a bit beyond that and be blended in as well. Some shops go panel line to panel line. For you that would be from the rear bumper to the front bumper.

Clearly they didn't mix the right shade from your RPO codes or did a piss poor job. They hoped you wouldn't notice but I think even Ray Charles wouldn't miss that!

Sorry op.

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I looked at more pics. That's awful. Did they really think you wouldn't notice?!?! That's clear as day not right. I'm not trying to be rude to you, it's just sad they pushed that out the door knowing damn well it didn't match.
The entire blended panels should be clear coated otherwise you'll see where the clear ends... partial panel with the color and full panel with the clear...

Yeah, I looked at the first picture as well and that's all I needed to see...
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Old 08-31-2024, 11:13 PM   #7
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Yeah they did NOT blend properly.

Frankly you need to complain to the insurance company and take it to another shop. Tell them you don’t even trust this shop to get it right because you should not. Insist on the insurance company paying for another shop to do the job right with proper blending.
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Old 09-01-2024, 12:19 AM   #8
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The entire blended panels should be clear coated otherwise you'll see where the clear ends... partial panel with the color and full panel with the clear...

Yeah, I looked at the first picture as well and that's all I needed to see...
That's exactly what I meant by panel line. For him they'd clear from the rear bumper to the front bumper.
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Old 09-01-2024, 01:39 AM   #9
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That's exactly what I meant by panel line. For him they'd clear from the rear bumper to the front bumper.
Exactly, front fender and rear quarter panel blended with color but both of those panels fully clear coated...

The pictures indicate a door that was likely painted off the car and they did their best to try to match the paint (but failed) and just let it go hoping the owner wouldn't say anything...
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Old 09-01-2024, 09:57 AM   #10
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For sure take it back. At least see what they have to say about it.

Was it an insurance repair or out of pocket. If it was insurance, find out what they paid for and what they cover. They may have just done the minimum based on the insurance.

We've had two door issues in the past year. Used the same company to do the repairs. In both cases they were clear to tell us they would repaint, not just blend the adjoining panels. Both vehicles looked outstanding when done.

Sucks to have your car damaged in the first place, but a bad repair just reminds you of it.

Good luck!
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Old 09-02-2024, 11:23 AM   #11
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Here's a snippet of the work order. Shows they blended the fender. When I picked up the car it was a bright sunny day and standing immediately in front of the door i wasn't able to tell the color mismatch.

This was thru insurance.

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Old 09-04-2024, 01:41 PM   #12
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UPDATE:
Spoke to the body shop manager, he agreed to redo it and NOT remove the door this time during the painting process but not without telling me that they can't do it as good as the factory, no guarantee it will turn out any better, and printed out a TSB (#09-08-51-004) from 2009 where GM states the doors may be a different shade of paint than quarter panels. I questioned why they would remove the door to paint it and if that could be a reason why the color appears off, they seemed to suggest that perhaps that could be a reason. Anyway, I will drop it off later in the month after I conclude my track season this year at Lightning.
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Old 09-04-2024, 01:55 PM   #13
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Hmmmm…..

Just hope it looks right when they’re done.

Good body shops make it look much better than that or perfect the first time. I fail to understand how a 2009 TSB can apply to a car that wasn’t even in the initial design stages at the time the TSB was made but I digress.

Hope they do it right, in the end that’s what you want.
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Old 09-04-2024, 03:06 PM   #14
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UPDATE:
Spoke to the body shop manager, he agreed to redo it and NOT remove the door this time during the painting process but not without telling me that they can't do it as good as the factory, no guarantee it will turn out any better, and printed out a TSB (#09-08-51-004) from 2009 where GM states the doors may be a different shade of paint than quarter panels. I questioned why they would remove the door to paint it and if that could be a reason why the color appears off, they seemed to suggest that perhaps that could be a reason. Anyway, I will drop it off later in the month after I conclude my track season this year at Lightning.
Sorry but that’s bullshit! These cars are painted by robots. The body shop can damn well make it look factory if not better than factory if prepped and sprayed right. Also a TSB from 2009??!? Haha come on these are two different t body styles! I feel your pain my ‘22 /1LE got hit while I had my door open and it ripped the door forward. The bodyshop had to repaint the door 4 times. Best part is they had the car for 6 months and caused even more damage. Once done we put a paint mil reader on it and it was at 15-18 mil thick (should be like 4.5-5.5) The painter just kept respraying over and over never sanding or prepping! Also when they put the door back on the bolts holding the hinges to the pillar could be loosened by hand. Luckily I spoke to my insurance and they sent out their inspector and he totaled it out. I made $15k on the loss so I got a ‘24 ZL1.
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