[SOCAL.M6.ZLE]

Hey everyone,

Lots of projects still unfinished for the the GMS extended product line, but the one I have been getting the most request for was an Oil Cooler that would be forward facing, and not block the front HX.

I am happy to announce that my brackets are now complete, the system is plumbed, and I am now only waiting for the street testing. Fitment is tight, but it fits. My system also makes room for Improved Racings High Flow in-line thermostat which is much better than any sandwich plate product on the market as far as flow is concerned. It utilizes all -10AN lines and fittings, and fits snugly behind the upper front grill. Note: I have some heat sheilding on order for the braided line near the headers... Will share those photos when up!

Also, my OEM delete kit features an improved billet 5/8" quick connect cap, that allows you to remove the entire pipe that runs coolant down from the water pump to the OEM oil pan mounted cooler.

A few other exciting updates...
My next batch of 25 units is almost done!
I will be offering (3) stages of oil coolers!
My HX cooling system upgrades testing is almost done as well...
I have 3 stages of Data collection packages brought to you by Banks.



Who wants one?

[adub4185]

Super clean Gabe! You know I am in for sure!

[radz28]

DANG!!! That looks KILLER!!! KUDOS!!!

[Ericdared]

That looks bad ass!

[SOCAL.M6.ZLE]

Thanks for the feedback guys! Question... should I include some heat shielding for the lines near the headers in the kit, or leave that for clients to choose and provide?

[radz28]

IMO - leave it.

[Tonys10SS]

Originally Posted by SOCAL.M6.ZLE

Thanks for the feedback guys! Question... should I include some heat shielding for the lines near the headers in the kit, or leave that for clients to choose and provide?

Depends on the cost of the materials I would say. Having dealt in parts for most of my life, people's biggest complaints tend to come from the smallest parts that are not included. Obviously you can not fix everything but if it is simple to include and does not throw margins out, why not include some shielding for the customer. Just makes the kit that much more complete. We all hate having to make trips to the auto parts store to get more stuff that was not known about previously.

[RobZL1]

Originally Posted by SOCAL.M6.ZLE

I have 3 stages of Data collection packages brought to you by Banks.

Tell us more about this one. Is this set up to work in conjunction with a Banks iDash gauge with a firmware update or something? Or something different entirely?

Very cool (pun intended) stuff you're doing here.

[Patriot Motorsports USA]

Gabe, its looking good!!!

Are you going to re-direct the coolant path to load at the top and pull from the bottom?

As you know and we have discussed our projects on the phone in great detail, so I wanted to share your setup without redirecting the flow path will be negating the cooling offered by the SCHX upgrade if all the oil heat is hitting the area going to the supercharger. It is for this purpose I created my own SCHX so I can use 100% of the cooling area, bottom feed since heat rises and pull the most BTU stripped coolant from the lower portion of the radiator. Every engine I have ever seen pulls coolant to the water pump from the bottom and discharges hot water from the thermostat to the top of the radiator... which is opposite flowpath of our SCHX cooling circuit.

In case those following this thread did not know, the OEM SCHX path is to pull coolant from the supercharger, push it through the Aux Cooler in the driver's side and from the bottom of the front SCHX, push it along with any air it creates up to the top/opposite passenger side (where all the heat goes) and then in a 5/8" aluminum tube, passes right behind ALL the heat exchangers with the radiator fan blasting it before going into the supercharger... IN THE NAME OF COOLING!! THIS IS WHY THE SC BRICKS ARE CONSTANTLY GETTING AIR TRAPPED IN THEM!!

In the factory design, there is NO means of removing air or expansion for thermal fluid increase... thus this is why the pump will shut off when it determines it is cavitating or catches an air bubble. In my design, there is no possible way of this happening since the system has a thermal expansion tank and the SCHX has a purge back to that tank that is far away from the fluid being introduced to the pump. My hottest supercharger fluid will come from the SC, go into the expansion tank before entering the pump and being sent to the upper Pass Side of the SCHX, making three passes across before exiting to the Aux heat exchanger and entering the Supercharger. At no point is my SC coolant in a path of hot air, or being heated by routing. I also have two failsafes to extract air that could be created by using water without glycol due to track rules, thermal expansion or any issues that could lead to a pump shutdown in a pressure regulated system.

[SOCAL.M6.ZLE]

Originally Posted by RobZL1

Tell us more about this one. Is this set up to work in conjunction with a Banks iDash gauge with a firmware update or something? Or something different entirely?

Very cool (pun intended) stuff you're doing here.

Good Question... see below for a rough layout. As far as data gathering, I am simply utilizing current Banks products but packaging in order to save you all $$$. The exact plan is still TBD, as I am still in the testing phase on my car, so there will likely be some push and pull on the kit designs. What I can tell you is that the Banks products are TOP NOTCH, and despite some missing PID's the iDash is fantastic.

[SOCAL.M6.ZLE]

Originally Posted by ZLElvira

Gabe, its looking good!!!

Are you going to re-direct the coolant path to load at the top and pull from the bottom?

As you know and we have discussed our projects on the phone in great detail, so I wanted to share your setup without redirecting the flow path will be negating the cooling offered by the SCHX upgrade if all the oil heat is hitting the area going to the supercharger. It is for this purpose I created my own SCHX so I can use 100% of the cooling area, bottom feed since heat rises and pull the most BTU stripped coolant from the lower portion of the radiator. Every engine I have ever seen pulls coolant to the water pump from the bottom and discharges hot water from the thermostat to the top of the radiator... which is opposite flowpath of our SCHX cooling circuit.

In case those following this thread did not know, the OEM SCHX path is to pull coolant from the supercharger, push it through the Aux Cooler in the driver's side and from the bottom of the front SCHX, push it along with any air it creates up to the top/opposite passenger side (where all the heat goes) and then in a 5/8" aluminum tube, passes right behind ALL the heat exchangers with the radiator fan blasting it before going into the supercharger... IN THE NAME OF COOLING!! THIS IS WHY THE SC BRICKS ARE CONSTANTLY GETTING AIR TRAPPED IN THEM!!

In the factory design, there is NO means of removing air or expansion for thermal fluid increase... thus this is why the pump will shut off when it determines it is cavitating or catches an air bubble. In my design, there is no possible way of this happening since the system has a thermal expansion tank and the SCHX has a purge back to that tank that is far away from the fluid being introduced to the pump. My hottest supercharger fluid will come from the SC, go into the expansion tank before entering the pump and being sent to the upper Pass Side of the SCHX, making three passes across before exiting to the Aux heat exchanger and entering the Supercharger. At no point is my SC coolant in a path of hot air, or being heated by routing. I also have two failsafes to extract air that could be created by using water without glycol due to track rules, thermal expansion or any issues that could lead to a pump shutdown in a pressure regulated system.

Yes sir... that is the plan. Can't get on the phone with you enough! Learn something every time! I think my hose routing solves the issue you mentioned. I have emptied and refilled my system several times already and it primes and fills perfectly. Just waiting for my additional sensor fittings so I can button up, and get some road testing in... I think I texted you this layout, but you were at dinner or something

[Patriot Motorsports USA]

Originally Posted by SOCAL.M6.ZLE

Yes sir... that is the plan. Can't get on the phone with you enough! Learn something every time! I think my hose routing solves the issue you mentioned. I have emptied and refilled my system several times already and it primes and fills perfectly. Just waiting for my additional sensor fittings so I can button up, and get some road testing in... I think I texted you this layout, but you were at dinner or something

Sorry that I have been a bit crazy getting this Kraken ready for survey this week... there's so much to do when you've put 6000 miles on a boat in 285 hours in One Year of running from Maine to Key West and the Bahamas!!

There's a lot of greatness in your design thought process and I am happy to see you have adopted the IDash from Banks!! When I visited with Gale Banks and did the sponsorship for my Ram 3500 High Output... I never knew what 1630 lb/ft of torque would be like without smoke and his systems/tuning are #NextLevel!!

You've gotta change the flow path... its truly elementary. You cannot expect to keep air out of the $hitty OEM SC bricks by top feeding the SC from the SCHX. Keeping the OEM flow path will simply demand you have the expansion tank doing work and those without one will never realize like I have what its like to run flat out for 30 minutes without timing retard due to MATs with a Stock SCHX! This is why I am "Very Excite" (insert Borat Meme Here)!!! The OEM Bricks ARE the weakest link in what we are doing!! As soon as I deliver this Yacht to the buyer, I am ordering my Maggie, (unless Dustin Whipple proves to me his SC is better)!!

It took me three days to look at this chart you made from your text last week... My Bad! You DO NOT need the third SCHX and you will want it for the engine to assist with the heat dispersion. One of the tests I plan to make once I get my system wrapped up and testing at Road Atlanta in September is to simply do a test datalog with 50/50 DexCool compared to a session with only water with Royal Purple PurpleIce™ to see the differences we are chasing in MATs.

We need to run these cars in GridLife and have some fun!!

[SOCAL.M6.ZLE]

Originally Posted by Tonys10SS

Depends on the cost of the materials I would say. Having dealt in parts for most of my life, people's biggest complaints tend to come from the smallest parts that are not included. Obviously you can not fix everything but if it is simple to include and does not throw margins out, why not include some shielding for the customer. Just makes the kit that much more complete. We all hate having to make trips to the auto parts store to get more stuff that was not known about previously.

I decided to add the heat shield to the lines... Great fitment and easy to install.... cheap addition to make this a turn key kit.

[SOCAL.M6.ZLE]

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